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Re: BRMS - full save with least amount of restricted time



fixed

The control group calls the CLP program via *EXITs. Now just start the console monitor, submit the BRMS job to *CONSOLE and stand back.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/10/2013 1:57 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
Thanks, Jim.

How do you do that with a CL program, when restricted state gets involved?

What I mean is this. We have the Advanced Job Scheduler, which is used to
do the restricted state backups. The AJS job command is:

STRBKUBRM CTLGRP(FULLWTHSYS) SBMJOB(*CONSOLE)

Are you saying you replaced that with CALL MYCLPGM and it did it all? As
in that CL program has 2 STRBKUBRM commands in it? That can't be, I don't
think, because restricted state will kill your CL program. And you're much
smarter than that so I'm obviously not understanding something.:)






On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> The main concern with save while active on an *ALLUSR is when you use
> any synch point except *LIB. *SYNCLIB and *SYSDFN may take a LONG time
> to reach a synchronization point with all of the libraries on the system.
>
> If you use *LIB as the save while active synchronization point you
> should not have any issues, I do it all the time.
>
> I also use the technique you mention with two control groups, one for
> restricted state for what ever is needed there, then bring the system
> back up for use and start a save while active on the other libraries.
>
> I use a control language program to do it so I can manage the shut down
> and start up properly.
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
> Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects
>
>
> On 1/10/2013 1:13 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
> <snip>
> > I read in "Backup Recovery and Media Services
> > for OS/400: A Practical Approach" (PDF available here:
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244840.html) that save while
> active
> > is strongly discouraged with *ALLUSR. The last update to this redbook
> was
> > 2003, so I'm wondering if that's changed. Anyone doing *ALLUSR save
> while
> > active?
> >
> > Another thought I had was to put the *SAVSYS in one control group
> > (restricted state), everything else in another control group (not
> > restricted), and run them back to back. This might be trickier, though,
> as
> > the first control group has to finish before the next one starts. I
> don't
> > know if BRMS has that built in or not. Just thought of that idea while
> > writing. Also, since I want everything on a single tape, I need to make
> > sure the 2nd control group doesn't clear the tape.
> >
> > Suggestions welcome.
> </snip>
> --





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