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Re: decommissioning



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Unless you are somewhere where adquiring the green papers is
controlled by the gov....
You would be amazed at what machines our clients keep running... i
have one that still has one old 9406-720 with v4r4 IN PRODUCTION...
hell if the economy were any better i would not be working in this
company since everyone would have a maintenance contract with IBM
instead of us...
Here, where most companies pirate software (until the BSA-style
threats come, then they buy but the bare minimum) they keep the old
AS400's and iSeries running until even the administrator have either
retired or been retired.
If IBM made the keys to old systems avaiable i have to admit that they
would lose some sales, there are lot's of cases where a company only
needed some more ram or more disk and the machine couldnt handle it
and they ended up buying a brand new power6 or 7 (with the headache
and costs of v5r4~v6.1 migration). For example we buy used and keyless
power5 520's for our manteinance contracts and they cost 1/10th or
less than if we had any avaiable here.

So, in short, it does drive down the used market, not all countries
have machines as cheap as USofA, and it's important to keep it down,
at least in countries like mine.

Best Regards,

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Stone, Joel <Joel.Stone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"IBM's grip on keys" doesn't drive down the used market. It is simple supply and demand - no one wants the stuff.

All electronics over two years old has little value, including TVs, PCs, phones, and iSeries h/w.

Most of it actually has a negative value - ie one must pay to dispose of it.




-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark D
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:42 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: decommissioning

On 9/11/2012 2:07 PM, John McKee wrote:
About 6 months from now, our i will be decommissioned.

I just looked at the IBM website and the Disk Sanitizer looked
interesting. But, there appear to be restrictions, such as units
can't be on same IOP as load source.

Is there a newer procedure that will completely wipe everything
securely? Rob's. 50 cal method would effect resale value, I would
think.
The best way to handle it would be to pull the drive and plug it into a
pc and then use one of the numerous free linux tools to wipe it.

And speaking of value, I'm always surprised at how much the value on i
stuff falls. The used market must suck thanks to IBM's grip on keys and
used software.

Thanks,
Mark

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