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TSM may be a good stand alone product but I can tell you from experience that TSM and BRMS do not play good together. If you have any significant amount of data to backup DO NOT use these two products together on the iSeries. Strange that they are both IBM products but don't function together! Regarding this issue: IBM tells me that they are getting away with the new "Standard" models with no interactive, and "Enterprise" models with full interactive. (I hear customers with low interactive screaming, but IBM seems to be deaf.) This is a huge understatement. If you have minimal interactive now be prepared to pay through the nose for a maximum amount of CPW that you will never use in most cases. IBM is doing their best to sweep this under the carpet but hopefully more customers, as they begin to upgrade, will realize how bad this deal is and will complain. My guess is that Rochester will continue to turn their backs but all we can do is complain. Paul Fenstermacher, AS/400 Certified System Administrator Bass Pro Shops 417-873-5424 paulf@xxxxxxxxxxx "Al Barsa" <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>@midrange.com on 04/21/2003 09:04:15 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Subject: RE: Image catalog to install V5R2 Does that mean that the product is good, or bad???? Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> midrange-l-bounces@x cc: idrange.com Subject: RE: Image catalog to install V5R2 04/21/2003 12:09 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion TSM is REALLY popular. The list traffic on it at marist.edu was intense. Sounds like some potential dollars for the consultants. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "Al Barsa" <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 04/21/2003 10:36 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Fax to: Subject: RE: Image catalog to install V5R2 Hard to say. This function was supposed to be shipped in V5R1, and it missed the release. Because it was such an important function, IBM PTF'ed it into V5R1. Plausibly IBM had been planning to add it to the Memo to Users, but remember that IBM pushed V5R2 out the door prematurely, because it was required for the 890 hardware, and high end 840 customers were screaming for capacity. At that time, 270 and 820 customers were not screaming, so IBM faked a new product line for those folks with pricing actions. IBM tells me that they are getting away with the new "Standard" models with no interactive, and "Enterprise" models with full interactive. (I hear customers with low interactive screaming, but IBM seems to be deaf.) Clearing they are trying to push new workloads. Regarding the new software shipped with the Enterprise models: 1. BRMS now seems key to learn, and I would say that many of us will need to learn this. 2. Shipping SameTime and QuickPlace without shipping Domino is about as exciting as kissing your sister. Domino is selling, although not well enough, and apparently SameTime and QuickPlace are a key enhancement to it. I have been told that they can be used without Notes, but when I ask how, no one can give me a cogent answer. 3. Tivoli Storage Manager will be interesting. It is a key part of IBM's strategy of integrating all their products together, but IBM's reputation for porting non-400 products to the platform has a bad history, with the notable exception of Domino, but even that had a shaky start. Al - in Naples Florida Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com |---------+----------------------------------------------------> | | "Steve Richter" <srichter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | | Sent by: | | | midrange-l-bounces+barsa2=attglobal.net@x| | | idrange.com | | | | | | | | | 04/21/2003 11:08 AM | | | Please respond to Midrange Systems | | | Technical Discussion | | | | |---------+----------------------------------------------------> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Image catalog to install V5R2 | > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Why is image catalog not documented in the v5r2 memo to users? When I search the pdf http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r2/ic2924/info/rzaq9.pdf for the words "image catalog" or "imgclg" there are no hits that mean anything. Steve -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces+srichter=autocoder.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces+srichter=autocoder.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeff Crosby Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 4:22 PM To: Midrange Mailing List Subject: Image catalog to install V5R2 Has anyone used the new image catalog stuff to install V5R2? I searched the archives and found this question was asked some time back on the RPG400-L list, but the only response was David asking that it be moved to the MIDRANGE-L list <g> Thanks. -- Jeff Crosby Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc. P.O. Box 13369 Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369 260-422-7531 The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the opinion of my company. 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