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TSM may be a good stand alone product but I can tell you from experience
that TSM and BRMS do not play good together.  If you have any significant
amount of data to backup DO NOT use these two products together on the
iSeries.  Strange that they are both IBM products but don't function
together!

Regarding this issue:

IBM tells me that they are getting away with the new "Standard" models
with
no interactive, and "Enterprise" models with full interactive.  (I hear
customers with low interactive screaming, but IBM seems to be deaf.)

This is a huge understatement.  If you have minimal interactive now be
prepared to pay through the nose for a maximum amount of CPW that you will
never use in most cases.  IBM is doing their best to sweep this under the
carpet but hopefully more customers, as they begin to upgrade, will realize
how bad this deal is and will complain.  My guess is that Rochester will
continue to turn their backs but all we can do is complain.


Paul Fenstermacher, AS/400 Certified System Administrator
Bass Pro Shops
417-873-5424
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Does that mean that the product is good, or bad????

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
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TSM is REALLY popular.  The list traffic on it at marist.edu was intense.
Sounds like some potential dollars for the consultants.

Rob Berendt
--
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Hard to say.

This function was supposed to be shipped in V5R1, and it missed the
release.  Because it was such an important  function, IBM PTF'ed it into
V5R1.  Plausibly IBM had been planning to add it to the Memo to Users, but
remember that IBM pushed V5R2 out the door prematurely, because it was
required for the 890 hardware, and high end 840 customers were screaming
for capacity.

At that time, 270 and 820 customers were not screaming, so IBM faked a new
product line for those folks with pricing actions.

IBM tells me that they are getting away with the new "Standard" models
with
no interactive, and "Enterprise" models with full interactive.  (I hear
customers with low interactive screaming, but IBM seems to be deaf.)
Clearing they are trying to push new workloads.   Regarding the new
software shipped with the Enterprise models:

1.    BRMS now seems key to learn, and I would say that many of us will
need to learn this.
2.    Shipping SameTime and QuickPlace without shipping Domino is about as
exciting as kissing your sister.  Domino is selling, although not well
enough, and apparently SameTime and QuickPlace are a key enhancement to
it.
I have been told that they can be used without Notes, but when I ask how,
no one can give me a cogent answer.
3.    Tivoli Storage Manager will be interesting.   It is a key part of
IBM's strategy of integrating all their products together, but IBM's
reputation for porting non-400 products to the platform has a bad history,
with the notable exception of Domino, but even that had a shaky start.

Al - in Naples Florida

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

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Why is image catalog not documented in the v5r2 memo to users?

When I search the pdf
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r2/ic2924/info/rzaq9.pdf
for the words "image catalog" or "imgclg" there are no hits that mean
anything.

Steve

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Has anyone used the new image catalog stuff to install V5R2?

I searched the archives and found this question was asked some time back
on the RPG400-L list, but the only response was David asking that it be
moved to the MIDRANGE-L list <g>

Thanks.

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