Sad to say, I agree with you. However, I'm cautiously optimistic that IBM will port ASP.NET 5 to PASE.

First, if IBM supports ASP.NET 5 in its Bluemix cloud, it has a greater opportunity to sell cloud services. This is already happening. You can already develop ASP.NET 5 applications on IBM's Bluemix cloud ( This hopefully breaks any ice that might prevent IBM from porting ASP.NET 5 to the IBM i.

Second, if IBM supports ASP.NET 5 in the IBM i PASE environment, it would give IBM a greater opportunity to sell IBM i servers to .NET shops. It may also maintain extisting IBM i shops. A number of shops run both the IBM i and Windows servers. If ASP.NET 5 ran in PASE, then growing commitment to .NET development would no longer mean switching from IBM i to Windows. These shops could view the IBM i as an integral part of the .NET environment.


Kelly Cookson
IT Project Leader
Dot Foods, Inc.
1.217.773.4486 ext. 12676

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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Schoen
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 10:28 AM
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Holding off recommending Node.JS for now

Sounds like .Net is the current and future state of your web development.

Better start learning .Net if you're going to participate in the web application development process in your shop.

2 years is an eternity in IT so I am expecting you'll still be using .Net in 2 years unless you hire a dev manager with PHP experience who says PHP is it, or Ruby and says Ruby is it, or someone with Node.Js who says Node and Javascript is it.

Embrace what your team is using today and continue to self-educate on the other platforms if it interests you.


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date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 00:09:09 +0000
from: Kelly Cookson <KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [WEB400] Holding off recommending Node.JS for now

I'm leaning more and more towards making a "wait-and-see" recommendation about node to our shop. This isn't so much about node per se. It's more about: (a) the circumstances in the shop where I work, and (b) Microsoft making ASP.NET 5 open source and multi-platform.

Learning that ASP.NET 5 has become open source and multi-platform changes my perspective entirely. My shop already has a lot of experienced .NET developers, and we already use .NET for all of our web and mobile development. My shop could probably afford to wait a year or two and see if ASP.NET 5 gets ported to the IBM i. If ASP.NET 5 does get ported to PASE, then it would make so much more sense for my shop to use ASP.NET 5 rather than node. If ASP.NET 5 doesn't get ported to PASE, we could still use .NET running in IIS and the .NET Provider to do all of our web and mobile development. It wouldn't be the same path we're already on today.

Maybe in a year or two, we would be able to compare a slightly more mature node against a slightly more mature open source ASP.NET 5 and make a decision that's better for us than we can make today.

Kelly Cookson
IT Project Leader
Dot Foods, Inc.
1.217.773.4486 ext. 12676

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