By no means was I trying to start a war either :-).

I will disagree that RPG is a code generator though. I'll also say, my HTML
would not be very well formed without my IDE reminding that I forgot a
ending tag or where that header goes. On the other hand, I do hand code the
body. I don't drag on drop it.

That said, when creating Swing applications I do use a code generator.
NetBeans' GUI builder is just too good and my skill for layout is just too
bad for me to do it by hand. It would take me 5 times longer to do it by
hand. I don't like the code it generates though and as with most generators,
you can't tweak it too much or the builder will not work.

These are just my opinions though. Just because I don't like the code that
it may generate, doesn't mean other do like it. They might at my coding
style and not like it, so to each their own.

James R. Perkins

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:30, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have hesitated to respond because this could so easily turn into a
Holy War.

RPG, Report Program Generator, is a code generator. Its how I make my
living. Can it be a surprise I like it? As I look at other choices
and realize how much RPG does for me, and how well it protects me from
myself, I have be appreciative. Does this mean I believe David's
attitude is misguided? Not at all. He's a fargin' coding genius! He
doesn't need to be protected from himself. :)

I've used, and liked, Pro-Gen. That was a code generator. It required
an attitude of going along to get along. Tweaking generated code was
possible, even easy and well documented. However I never found an
instance where Pro-Gen wouldn't do what I wanted done. Tweaking it was
a waste of client money.

I used, and liked, VARPG which is a drag & drop application builder and
I never saw any benefit to knowing how to create/edit .dll files.

I learned how to write HTML pages with Notepad, but the move to Net
Objects Fusion was a big leap forward in my productivity and

GWT is still not totally baked, but it does allow me to produce usable
stuff, and is web-based,, which is where I want to go, anyway.

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