Re: JavaFX viability was->Re: Pete's web5250

Not necessarily, I just know how to recognize "technology
over-excitedness" when I see it.

Sorry, that's not the issue and I don't know how you arrived at that
conclusion. It was pretty unnecessary.

It is interesting you bring this up because shops are now trying to get
rid of the PC as much as possible and go back to the mainframe approach
(i.e. everything hosted on a server and accessed via
thinclient/browser).

I don't disagree at all with this. I just think you'll end up with a browser
plug in and in some cases local data stores providing the answer rather than
handcrafting tons of CSS and Javascript and HTML and having everything on
the server - with all the chattiness and overhead that implies. At the very
least you'll be using standard Javascript libraries or a tool to generate
them. That's pretty close to returning the PC to a terminal and that's
pretty much what I see happening.

Alright, your turn :-)

Nah, I'm not playing that game.

Regards
Evan Harris

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


Evan Harris wrote:

Hi Aaron

I don't want to prolong this any more than necessary so I'll try to keep

it

brief, but two points stand out:

You are thinking about doing things the way they have always been done

with

different technology. Why not allocate the order number when it gets

loaded

from the local client into the ERP system ? Uniqueness problem solved. Why
*not* have the inventory file on the users PC ? You only need to

communicate

changes when they go on line. Initializing the file is a one-off effort.
Once again, can you get my point - this is an example of what can be done

if

you want to, not necessarily the answer to the questions you raise. I'm

just

demonstrating that you can solve the problem if you want to.

As far as ROI goes, what appears to make the salespeople and others
productive is what determines ROI. Since it is in a spreadsheet anyone can
make it come out to any number that proves their case (cynicism intended).

I

have never seen yet an IT department win an argument against a
logistics|sales|inventory|purchasing|marketing executive - pick your

title.

Once these operational guys decide something adds value to the business or
offers a strategic advantage IT better deliver. IT's view of ROI will be
overlooked, so your ROI argument is meaningless.

As to your it's only for personal applications comments - were you around

in

1985 to hear how many times the mainframe guys (and others) made the same
comments about minis and PC's ? What the users *want* will drive this

change

regardless of what we think or indeed what is actually the right answer.

Regards
Evan Harris