RE: Pete's web5250 was->Re: Business Developers was ->Re: IBM Gives RPG Devotees Their Own Café

Answer 1:
JavaFX is a layer upon the normal JVM. In fact, it *is* simply Java, but with a new nice declarative language with which it is far easier to build attractive UI's as with Swing. But it's simply Java. For some that seems to be a problem, for others its a big advantage.
So JavaFX is delivered through the normal JVM plugin, which is Java 6 update 10 (or 11 now). The start-up time seems to be reduced, and you can even drag an applet to the desktop so it runs outside the browser (dont need the browser anymore the start the app).
For public apps, depending on the app and the customer, HTML/Javascript maybe a better option. Because it's ubiqious.
JavaFX 1.0 has now one week or so old, so don't judge it now, but keep your eyes on it. The big advantage of JavaFX is that it is based on the stable, robust and efficient Java platform. IMO, it has big potential. To contrast it with Flex, the latter is more for apps where design and looks is more important than functionality. You can't build a complex app in Flex (flash) without running into all kinds of problems, like memory leaks and performance problems. It is no basis for business application development, but more for ads and the like.

Answer 2:
JavaFX is rather new, but if you google then there are enough example apps you can try.
I googled one up for you: http://javafx.com/samples/

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:27:13 -0600
From: aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Pete's web5250 was->Re: Business Developers was ->Re: IBM Gives RPG Devotees Their Own Café

<Ignorance warning>

How is JavaFX originally delivered to the users desktop? Is it similar
to a "browser add-on" like Flash or Silverlight, or is it more like
downloading the .NET framework (guessing the latter). If that's the
case then I can see it working for internal apps, but that still leaves
the need to do public web sites where the viability of your business can
depend on how easy/non-intrusive it is to use your website - hence why
HTML+CSS+JavaScript will seemingly forever be trying to mirror what
other "thicker" technologies can do better.

Question 2: Do you know of any current online sites that use JavaFX?
Everytime I see an update about the technology I always try to take the
time to read it, but I don't believe I have ever actually seen a JavaFX
app. Do you know of any by chance?

Thanks,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


john e wrote:

Maybe it's an idea to replace the bloated browser with a java client, JavaFX to be precise which is quite efficient and can provide a very aesthetic look. Its better suited for business apps (e.g. it can be made keyboard centric much easily as html/javascript) *and* you have the availability of the vast java platform libraries on the client, *and* you have far less security problems. For example it would be possible to access the local disk in a controlled way.

As others (well, at least one other person) already stated, the browser is a dead end for serious (business) apps, IMHO.

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