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Anyways, my biggest concern with Rails is if it ponies up when I need to write a more complex application. I would rather not have to do trial and error to find that out because right now I am "framework fried" after trying both JSF and Tapestry and finding they both caused just as many headaches as the time I was expecting to save.
For what it's worth, none of my green-haired kids (young Java experts) are big fans of frameworks. From their experiences, frameworks are great for simple apps, but you wind up fighting the framework for more complex apps. At their recommendation, we do plain-old Model 2 JSP, and we keep scripting in JSPs to an absolute minimum. They'd rather write HTML in the servlet and pass it along to the JSP than do Java in their JSPs. Seems reasonable to me. Mike E.
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