Re: User space editor in iSphere - get "No editor selected" error -- WDSCI-L

Thomas,

I think it would be useful to have the capability similar to a data area editor and also a way to specify an external format to apply, starting at a user specified location. This would be similar in concept to a based data structure's ability to move around the "viewer" based on the value of the pointer. A 3rd, nice to have, option would be to allow the user to "build" a view on the fly.

-mark

On 6/15/2015 2:26 AM, Thomas Raddatz wrote:

Hi Vern,

Can you sent me a roughly designed example (picture and/or) description how your user space editor should look like?

I first startet with the data area editor but when it came to user spaces I thought that it would be difficult to read all the hex bytes. But now I agree that it was fine to have a user space editor such as the data area editor.

The problem might be, that it must be a hex editor instead of a String editor, because from my understanding user spaces are usually more "technically" used, for example as output buffer for the IBM list APIs. Whereas data areas are often human readable.

That was the point when I had the idea of the "data space editor designer".

So actually we needed an enhancement such as the "hex" editor of Notepad++, right?

I am looking forward to your suggestions.

Thomas.

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Von: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Vernon Hamberg
Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2015 21:47
An: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i& iSeries
Betreff: Re: [WDSCI-L] User space editor in iSphere - get "No editor selected" error

Thx paul - you got it - part of my confusion is, if I right-click a user space, it gives me 2 options - iSphere User Space Monitor and iSphere User Space Editor. I would never have thought to look at Data Spaces in the help.

The help does say this - "From a programmer's point of view, both objects are very similar; essentially each is a string of bytes"

Then there's this designer to make an "editor" that breaks out the various values, "fields", etc.

All that seems good - I've not made it work for what I want yet.

I am confused that there IS a separate data area section in the help - but I've used this and like it - it is like CHGDTAARA but the original value is displayed, which the command does not do. No "editor" is needed for this, to break up the value into its "format". I DO have examples where having that format would be useful.

I haven't got this far - but it seems one must "assign" an editor to each specific object. I hope that's not true, but it looks that way.
Maybe that's OK for some stuff, not sure if it aligns with change management tools, though - just asking.

I really want something like EDTF and DSPF for use spaces - see, I do NOT see data areas and user spaces as being the same "...from a programmer's point of view..." - at least, not all the time.

So if I have not specified a layout - and this is NOT practical with many of the APIs, due to varying lengths and all manner of offsets and lists that vary in number - I want to have the ability to simply work with the entire contents - and handle bytes that are not displayable - the stuff before x'40', for example.

I look forward to future develoopments in this arena - hope my thoughts are helpful!

Vern

On 6/12/2015 1:52 PM, paultherrien@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Aren't user spaces and data areas called 'data spaces' in iSphere?
I don't have iSphere installed, but I did some light reading last night.

Paul Therrien
Andeco Software, LLC
225-229-2491
paultherrien@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.andecosoftware.com

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Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:44 PM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: [WDSCI-L] User space editor in iSphere - get "No editor selected"
error

I have the latest version 25 installed and tried the user space editor.

I get a window showing the type (*CHAR), length, and description, then
a rectangular area with this text in it -

No editor selected. Cannot display any data.

I have assumed that the message is an Eclipse thing, so googled for
that text and haven't found anything useful in my short search.

And the help for v26 does not mention this editor - and nothing
obvious in Preferences.

I tried adding a file type of *.usrspc and associating the Eclipse
text editor with it - no luck.

Thoughts, anyone?

Thx
Vern
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