Could IBM possibly make this any more confusing?? Joe you did a great job
of explaining it but it still almost as clear as mud.


From: Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/22/2010 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Combining RBD & RDI
Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

This is exactly correct. The idea behind the entire Rational delivery
mechanism is that you can buy separate components and then install them
together to create a workbench. For example, to enable the approximate
capabilities of the old WDSC you would install RDP and RAD together;
this gives you RPG development tools and Java EE development. The
RDi-SOA equivalent is an installation of RDP and RBD.

Note that you should also be able to install a second component into an
existing installation of another component. For example, installing RBD
into an existing RDP is (nearly) the same as installing them together,
although as Duane notes installing them together is probably faster.
You can also install fix packs at the same time; this is especially
helpful for network installs.

One caveat: there is currently a mismatch between RDP and RBD that will
NOT allow you to install RBD into RDP, although you can install RDP into
RBD or install them together. Well, technically you can install RBD
into RDP, but the workbench will not come up and you have to uninstall
RBD to get your RDP back. That should be fixed sometime in Q1.



Install RAD 8.0 and RDP 8.0 in the same software package group.

We have both RAD and RDP 8.0 repositories on the network, we point IM to
them and it installs both in one pass. Include the WAS servers you want
and any fix packs in the repositories and, IMO, the installation is faster
than doing each separately.
You end up with all the tools in one instance of RDP.

You will need to check with IBM how to license this.

Duane Christen

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:19 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i& iSeries
Subject: [WDSCI-L] Combining RBD& RDI

I apologize if this has been asked and answered in the past. I have
tried a few
searches, but could not find an answer in the archives.

I have used WSAD/WDSCI since around 2002, but have recently started
using the
Rational products. My issue is that I use both Java, Websphere and RPG.
When I
used WDSCI it had all the perspectives I use in one application (WDSCI).
I was
able to bring up the Java perspective to edit java, Servers perspective
to run
and test the java apps on my WAS test servers, and RSE to edit RPG, CL,
All in one installed application.

In the new Rational products, I have 2 installs, one allows me to edit
Java/Websphere, the other to work with RPG. 1 is Rational Business
the other is Rational Developer for I. My question is, is there one
available where I have the RSE and Server perspectives available in one
install? I tried a several installs hoping I could get them to work in
one, as
I could with WDSI. Can I install all of the perspectives in one
application? I
also tried RAD 8.0, but it gave me only the Java/Websphere perspectives,
not the

Actually, all these products are a bit confusing. RDI, RBD for SOA,
etc...... can any play together? I just purchased a new System I (Power
5, 6 or
whatever), and purchased RBD for SOS and RDI. I would go back to WDSCI,
but was
told that it is no longer supported.

Thank you,
Don Mc.

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