Re: iSociety Fireside Chat recording available?

[Aaron puts on lipstick...]

Thanks. There's an image that's going to take a lot of therapy to remove...

Am I at fault for providing input as to where I see you going with your
"stop using ADTS"

Yeah, you are at fault <smile>. Stop jumping the gun, and conversations will be much more civil. All kidding aside, I'd really rather discuss what I said, not what you think I'm going to say. That's just an interpersonal conversation thing, but it gets exacerbated by the mailing list medium because I have to waste time rebutting things I never said, but that you think I was going to say. AIEEE! <grin>

It's just input, and yes, you are starting to sound like a RDi purist. As others have stated, "stop using ADTS" just isn't possible right now with what's in RDi/WDSC.

I want to get everyone off of ADTS that can be gotten. Some people are diehards and will never leave, some people's jobs make ADTS a requirement. I think those are by far the exception rather than the rule; I have met almost nobody who has used WDSC diligently for a couple of months who wants to go back to ADTS. But there are still issues that stop people from getting off of ADTS.

If you insist on having ADTS, and IBM insists on charging you extra for having both, there are a lot of comanies that aren't going to spring for RDi, and that's a problem.

So what I want from this group is not "we need ADTS" but instead, what exactly is needed in RDi to make ADTS superfluous. That way, they can move to RDi (for no charge) and then when the time comes to move past green screen technology, they'll already be halfway there, and they won't have to add "IDE learning curve" to the cost of modernization.

Does that make sense?

Joe