Hi Joe,
I have recently subscribed to WDSCI-L and have read your comments with
great interest (in particular your comments about moving all iseries
developers from ADTS across to WDSCi (RDi/RDi-SOA in future).
Our development team has been using WDSCi for about 4 years but very few
members (out of approx. 40) have made the transition. One of the excuses
has been that we support our systems outside business hours using citrix
connection and we only have ADTS available via citrix. I have tried to
follow-up on the internet on how we could get WDSCi running out of
citrix but have not been able to find anything positive (all articles I
have found seem to indicate this is not possible).
Do you have any ideas on using WDSCi via citrix?
Regards
John Catalano
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[Aaron puts on lipstick...]
Thanks. There's an image that's going to take a lot of therapy to
remove...
Am I at fault for providing input as to where I see you going with
your
"stop using ADTS"
Yeah, you are at fault <smile>. Stop jumping the gun, and conversations
will be much more civil. All kidding aside, I'd really rather discuss
what I said, not what you think I'm going to say. That's just an
interpersonal conversation thing, but it gets exacerbated by the mailing
list medium because I have to waste time rebutting things I never said,
but that you think I was going to say. AIEEE! <grin>
It's just input, and yes, you are starting to sound like a RDi purist.
As others have stated, "stop using ADTS" just isn't possible right now
with what's in RDi/WDSC.
I want to get everyone off of ADTS that can be gotten. Some people are
diehards and will never leave, some people's jobs make ADTS a
requirement. I think those are by far the exception rather than the
rule; I have met almost nobody who has used WDSC diligently for a couple
of months who wants to go back to ADTS. But there are still issues that
stop people from getting off of ADTS.
If you insist on having ADTS, and IBM insists on charging you extra for
having both, there are a lot of comanies that aren't going to spring for
RDi, and that's a problem.
So what I want from this group is not "we need ADTS" but instead, what
exactly is needed in RDi to make ADTS superfluous. That way, they can
move to RDi (for no charge) and then when the time comes to move past
green screen technology, they'll already be halfway there, and they
won't have to add "IDE learning curve" to the cost of modernization.
Does that make sense?
Joe
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