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To date, I have not heard of any installations other than Aaron's that
are still not working, and I don't know that Aaron's still isn't working -
he didn't bring it up at our meeting when we were sitting in the room with
all of the EGL developers.

Mine is now working, though I didn't install it over WDSC but RAD. I think
the issue may have been because I was on 7.0.0.0 vs. 7.0.0.2/4. I must have
missed that in the install notes, though it would have been nice if the IM
would have told me.

I just talked to another gentleman from an iSeries shop this morning that
had the same issue. We're not alone :-) SOme people just choose to drop
the pursuit of EGL vs. try and figure it out and posting to a forum. That
is why it is VERY important to have this info out on the wiki.

Personally, I would have been fine with posting the whole of Aaron's
problems had the title not implied that WDSC doesn't work with EGL. WDSC
and EGL work together just fine most of the time, and any problems seem to
be installation issues.

Fair enough. Can we put the more complete installation note back up on the
wiki? The midrange.com thread doesn't go into the same amount of detail.

FWIW, you could have just as easily re-worded the wiki vs. throwing us into
this debate, agreed? Nobody is trying to blatantly shoot down EGL, though I
will give it a hard critique and set of criteria to measure up to. Would
you do any less?

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:33 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Installing RAD7/EGL when WDSC already exists

Buck wrote:
Joe Pluta wrote:


From: Buck
Yes, your install works. Vern and Aaron had actual problems. I believe
those problems and the officially sanctioned workaround should not be
suppressed (the current state of affairs).

Nobody is "suppressing" anything. I am really beginning to hate this
list.
The tone and demeanor just plain stinks.


I was unable to come up with a better word than suppress. The
information was there, now it is not. Suppress was the most neutral
word I could find. I would be very happy to get an email helping me
find better words and improving my tone and demeanour.

No information is missing. There is a section on "Installation Notes"
which points directly to the thread regarding the problem, and it does
so without editorializing commentary implying that the tools don't work
together.

The tools work together.

There are installation issues.

The Wiki points to a thread where the installation issues of one
specific case are spelled out in detail, while people try to further
identify exactly what fails when. To date, I have not heard of any
installations other than Aaron's that are still not working, and I don't
know that Aaron's still isn't working - he didn't bring it up at our
meeting when we were sitting in the room with all of the EGL developers.

Personally, I would have been fine with posting the whole of Aaron's
problems had the title not implied that WDSC doesn't work with EGL.
WDSC and EGL work together just fine most of the time, and any problems
seem to be installation issues.

Anyway, if you think that making a distinction between individual cases
of a failed installation and a broad-brush definitoin of incompatibility
constitutes suppression then we'll simply have to move on, because I
don't want to argue definitions anymore.

Joe

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