RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ?

["Dijk, Bas v" <bvdijk@xxxxxxxxx>]

Guys, guys, I fully agree on the outdated part but let me explain:

- Currently we use LANSA for development
- The 'old' stuff is done in RPG/400 (or older), we are talking about
15.000+ objects
- Totaly re-writing to LANSA simply takes far to much time so we have to
live with RPG/400 for the old stuff
- Whenever a change or bugfix has something to do with old code we
simply try to determine which takes more time:
  - Change the old code, or
  - Re-write in LANSA
- The main reasons for NOT converting the RPG/400 stuff to RPG/IV is:
  - this would mean re-educate 35 people for RPG/IV (I would then
personally chose C )
  - We start to work with yet another language which does not realy
improve transparency

Again: I fully agree on converting, but how do I convince 35 people to
learn RPG/IV?

BTW: Michael, I don't think I will be able to deal with it! WDSci is
said to support RPG/400 (and it does (a bit)). So, my opinion is:
Support it for 100% or don't bother!


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Namens Colin Williams
Verzonden: donderdag 2 september 2004 13:36
Aan: 'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'
Onderwerp: RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ?

Joep,

Presumable its because not all of their programmmers are comfortable
with RPGIV.

RPGIV has been out for almost 10 years? I cant believe that this kind of
thinking is still around. 

If a programmer hasn't picked up a version of their chosen language that
has been around for 10 years, what does that say about their skills.
They are at least 10 years out of date!

cheers
Colin.W
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: J.Beckeringh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:J.Beckeringh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 02 September 2004 12:19
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ?


Bas,

>1.
>Take a look at http://search.experts-exchange.com and you'll know what
I
>mean with 'forum like set-up'

Hm. You can turn the question around: why doesn't this site list OS/400?

As for forums for iSeries: goto 
<http://www.iseriesnetwork.com/isnforums/>.

>3, 6.
>For my company it is NOT an option to convert to RPG IV (as much as 
>I'll like to) so you can imagine that I am somewhat frustrated to be 
>forced to work with RPG/400 and on top of that find out that using 
>WDSci for this is simply not complete.

Why is converting not an option? After conversion you have exactly the 
same program, in a slightly different format, that is most probably
easier 
to read. Only disadvantage I can think of is that you can't easily copy 
fragments of code from one format to the other. If you think RPG IV is 
'new': it is older than Windows 95. Imagine a company for which it is
not 
an option to replace Windows 3.1 with something more modern.

Joep Beckeringh
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