Re: WDSC HELP needed. Installation and Education -- WDSCI-L

Vern,

You can perform user actions against multiple items.  However, what I 
think is an improvement over PDM, when you define the User Action you can 
specify whether it only applies to a single selection.  If you do this, 
then it will not be available if you select multiple items.

I also like that you can tie actions specifically to objects or members as 
well as specfic object or member types.

Mark



wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 12/29/2003 10:12:34 PM:

> Welcome, Frank, to the bleeding edge of a brave new world!  ;-)
> 
> Looks like you're trying to install version 4, as Mark points out. I 
agree, 
> get version 5.1, which you can order if you have Software maintenance or 

> subscription.
> 
> If you do no Java development (only RPG or COBOL and CL and DDS) and do 
not 
> need to add any functions to the environment, I don't think you need to 
> know Java. I use the product regularly and do not use Java at all. The 
> older CODE editor uses a different macro language, and it has been 
> suggested that it will be brought in to Remote Systems Explorer. That 
LPEX 
> macro language is simpler but not as full-featured.
> 
> There are some settings for performance that are Java options, but 
there's 
> a document on the Web that gives some guidelines there.
> 
> I'm also not aware of any problem with Win2K and Client Access, except 
for 
> Operations Console on a Win2K box with service pack 4, and this is a 
> Microsoft bug. I have the fix, but you should not need it for normal 
> developers' machines - only if you use Operations Console for your 
console.
> 
> I'm sorry to say that I do not recommend the RSE editor for CL - it does 

> not format the same way as SEU. The external CODE editor is better for 
CL 
> and can be started from RSE.
> 
> The filters are actually pretty good. They are a different way of doing 
> things than PDM. It's a paradigm from the older CODE editor. There are 
> options to open only to members or certain kinds of objects, etc. And a 
> nice table view is available.
> 
> The ability to have multiple source members open at the same time is a 
> great thing. Esp. when I need to reference something in one from another 
- 
> it's more accessible than F15 and half-screen in SEU.
> 
> BTW, you'd never know this, but for training and tutorials, etc., go to 
the 
> Library link, not the Training and certification link. I think you'll be 
a 
> lot happier. <http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/wds400/library/>
> 
> You could also find some stuff at Jon Paris' and Sue Gantner's site: 
> <http://www.as400pro.com/TipsCode400.htm>
> 
> Once you have 5.1 installed, the update process is pretty good - there's 
an 
> Update Manager that knows where to look, so you don't need to download 
> everything. It'll take 3-4terations to get everything, however.
> 
> When you reboot after the first phase of installation, be sure to take 
the 
> iSeries extensions for CODE and Visual RPG before doing anything else.
> 
> VERY IMPORTANT - go to the WDSC sebsite and get the PTFs for the iSeries 

> that are required - there's a link.  And, of course, the required 
options 
> of 5722-WDS need to be installed - sounds as if you already have them.
> 
> BTW, I've been dragged kicking and screaming - I've fought (and lost) 
with 
> various versions of CODE since the mid-late 90's, hoping for something 
> that'll be good enough to replace PDM and SEU in a graphical emulator 
with 
> copy-paste, which is still pretty good, IMO. But I'm the one championing 

> this stuff at our company. We're basically in the "better tools" step of 

> the "roadmap" that IBM's cramming down our throats, and that's fine for 
our 
> needs. The other developers basically work out of CODE Project 
Organizer, 
> which has less of an impact on your PC's resources. 128meg works OK for 
> CODE. You still need to install everything but don't need to use it all 
> until you want or need to.
> 
> As far as similarity to PDM, that's hype. This is different, and better 
in 
> many ways. At the same time, you can't do searches in multiples members 
of 
> multiple source files, as in PDM. It's not obvious (or possible?) to do 
> user options or PDM options against multiple objects/members, etc. 
Again, 
> there are differences, and I'm still learning. But PDM and WRK* screens 
are 
> still often my choice, for speed and power, when I need to do mass 
changes 
> and maintenance. OpsNav is also still not a substitute, although there 
are 
> facilities there that are fantastic.
> 
> HTH
> Vern
> 
> At 10:21 AM 12/30/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> >I have tried many times to install  WDSC.
> >I think the PCs I have are too slow as it took me most of a day to 
install
> >from CD.
> >Even then most times I get a failure in the install process.
> >We are on V5R2. We use Win98.  Should I use 2000, XP  ??.
> >We chose to stay with Win98 because Client Access has poor
> >performance under Win2000.
> >
> >The best process I have done so far is
> >a. Transfer the DVD to Folder on our Novell Network Version 4.0 DVD
> >C241GML  LK3T-8377-00
> >b. Download the Update into the same folder.  (wdsc40sp4ENU)
> >c. Install from the Network.
> >     I get an error message towards the end of the install,
> >     'Distributed Debugger
> >     'Internal Error. Click Finish and reboot.  Then continue the 
install
> >from Add/Remove Programs
> >     'Repair Option.
> >     I follow the instructions and the same error comes up.
> >     I cant do anything about the error and I assume the updates will
> >correct the error.
> >
> >d. Apply the update.
> >
> >The entire process usually takes between 45mins to an hour.
> >
> > >From the ISERIES NEWS (Sept 2003)  I try the LPEX and CODE editors 
and I
> >find things
> >quite difficult, so I decide I need education, the article mentions PDM
> >similarities but
> >I dont see any.  I check the WDSC-L archives on education  (see below),
> >I cant see how to use the self education.
> >
> >Can someone help me with the following link as I cant get it to work.
> >
> >http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/wds400/education/#self
> >
> >So far I have found the following,
> >
> >Get the most powerful PC you can with the most amount of memory.
> >Copy the DVD to a network drive to install.
> >Download the Service Packs in advance.
> >Get Education on how to use WDSC.
> >LPEX seems to be a generic editor that needs configuration.
> >The concept of stored filters is strange.  I use the PDM Library and
> >'position to'
> >fields continuously, I dont see the need to create lists of these 
entries
> >and
> >then try to remember some made up name to find a previously used entry,
> >this is cumbersome.  I cant get PV , PDM options , colourisation,
> >indentation.
> >But I have managed to edit a source member, even one with > 32000 
lines.
> >
> >I dont know Java, do I need to?
> >, oh well maybe the education will help.
> >
> >Frank Kolmann
> 
> 
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