RE: Just installed 5.1

I do not know how the caching works, but even with caching it seems like
they would have to do some kind of resolving of the member with the *LIBL,
to see where it should be loaded from.  If the member is cached it does not
have to be loaded, but resolving 25 source members might still take up some
time?

Also, perhaps there are problems where it doesn't cache nested /COPY
statements?

Just wild speculation.  Aaron, how long does it take to refresh our outline
view, do it twice so that cache can be used.  Others, what sort of times do
you see when refreshing an outline with a lot of /COPY statements?

Mark



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I think the most /COPY statements I have had in a "normal" editing session
is 2, so I am definitely different.  I also have not done a lot of real
editing with sub-procedures, although I doubt that specifically slows
anything down.  You are probably right about the /COPY being the problem,
although I would have thought/hoped in 5.1 that the cache improvements
would make that a one time problem.  That has certainly been my experience
with database files.

Mark



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I wonder if my problem has more to do with it trying to bring in /COPY
members than the code within the current program.  I just counted the /COPY
members and there is a total of 26.  They include members like my DOMParse
XML parser and Scott Klements HTTP API code.  I am guessing when all is
said
and done I would have a couple hundred subprocs needing to get loaded into
the Outline view not including about 50 local sub procs.

Could anyone verify that this is probably where my hangup is?  Mark, how
big
is your program and how many outside resources (/COPY's) are you brining
in?

Maybe if there was a way for me to turn off the bringing in of external
source member procedures. . .

Aaron Bartell



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The outline view on my PC usually refreshes in about a second so I do not
find it unacceptable.  Would it be great if it just did it automatically
and was always up to date?  Sure.  Unless the process of doing those
updates further slows down an editor that already could stand to be faster.
I think the current situation is an acceptable tradeoff.

It isn't completely fair to compare the Java editor with the RPG editor.
The Java language, and runtime has a lot of these features built in with
its reflection and introspection API's.    With RPG it is up to IBM to
constantly parse the source code and I just do not think it as easy as with
Java.

I have played with the Eclipse C/C++ editor, which tries to emulate the
Java editor, and it also has a long way to go for similar reasons.
Likewise, even in Microsoft's Visual Studio the features you get when
editing C/C++ are nowhere near what you got when editing Visual Basic, and
that IDE is on its 7th major version over a span of 10 years.

Anyway, I am happy with the current state of the tools, but yes there will
always be room for improvements.  Perhaps they could at least tie in
updating the outline view with things like the new Create Procedure Wizard
since that should be able to tell the outline a new procedure was created.
Personally, I would prefer to see them let you do more with the outline
view, such as show all occurrences for a variable or indicator, or maybe do
some drag and drop from the outline to the editor, although that would
probably just be a gee-whiz feature.

Mark


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