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I wonder if my problem has more to do with it trying to bring in /COPY members than the code within the current program. I just counted the /COPY members and there is a total of 26. They include members like my DOMParse XML parser and Scott Klements HTTP API code. I am guessing when all is said and done I would have a couple hundred subprocs needing to get loaded into the Outline view not including about 50 local sub procs. Could anyone verify that this is probably where my hangup is? Mark, how big is your program and how many outside resources (/COPY's) are you brining in? Maybe if there was a way for me to turn off the bringing in of external source member procedures. . . Aaron Bartell -----Original Message----- From: Mark Phippard [mailto:MarkP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 3:48 PM To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] Just installed 5.1 The outline view on my PC usually refreshes in about a second so I do not find it unacceptable. Would it be great if it just did it automatically and was always up to date? Sure. Unless the process of doing those updates further slows down an editor that already could stand to be faster. I think the current situation is an acceptable tradeoff. It isn't completely fair to compare the Java editor with the RPG editor. The Java language, and runtime has a lot of these features built in with its reflection and introspection API's. With RPG it is up to IBM to constantly parse the source code and I just do not think it as easy as with Java. I have played with the Eclipse C/C++ editor, which tries to emulate the Java editor, and it also has a long way to go for similar reasons. Likewise, even in Microsoft's Visual Studio the features you get when editing C/C++ are nowhere near what you got when editing Visual Basic, and that IDE is on its 7th major version over a span of 10 years. Anyway, I am happy with the current state of the tools, but yes there will always be room for improvements. Perhaps they could at least tie in updating the outline view with things like the new Create Procedure Wizard since that should be able to tell the outline a new procedure was created. Personally, I would prefer to see them let you do more with the outline view, such as show all occurrences for a variable or indicator, or maybe do some drag and drop from the outline to the editor, although that would probably just be a gee-whiz feature. Mark
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