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Margaret,
Interesting.  Have you actually done this?

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From: system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of mslayton@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:58 AM
To: System 21 Users
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] Creating PF's or LF's


It makes more sense to create your own modification library.  When you get 
ready to put ptf's on, save the library, delete it, restore it when done. 
Thanks,  Margaret 



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There is a benefit of storing your custom logicals in a separate library.
They will be clearly identified when you run a DSPLIBDEP. Remember you 
MUST
delete these extra logicals before performing a System21 PTF uplift,
otherwise the PTF will fail when it tries to delete and recreate the 
parent
physical. Once the PTF uplift is complete you can then recreate the user
defined logicals.

Gary

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On Behalf Of Richard_Caldicott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:09 AM
To: System 21 Users
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] Creating PF's or LF's

Sounds great in theory Mike but you need to keep the custom files separa
te from the standard ones.

Richard Caldicott
Director of Implementations
& Efficiency   Tandy Brands Accessories
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You should just store the logicals in the library with the phys=cals.
Then
the restore will work and you wont have to wo=ry about juggling library
lists.

If you have a=ultiple environment situation, you probably have a
consolidat=d data file library anyway.

-Mike

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From: Prill, Steve [mailto:sprill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesda=, September 14, 2005 7:39 AM
To: System 21 Users
S=bject: RE: [SYSTEM21] Creating PF's or LF's

Bill,
<=TT>
The IBM Redbook "Geac System 21 - Implementation for AS/400" is=n
excellent
resource http:/www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg2=5967.html
and has great examples of naming conventions.  =ee Chapter 11
(Customization) and page 390 for specifics.
<=TT>
One other thing to consider is if you create logicals over Syst=m 21
physicals you might want to have custom libraries with a =ame that is
lower
in the iSeries sorting order.

<T=>Our custom libraries all start with the first letter of 'Z'.  The
re=son for
this is in the event of system restore resulting from = disaster, a
disaster
test, hard drive failure, etc. when you =estore your libraries it is
generally done via a RSTLIB *NONSY= or some equivalent method. These
methods
restore the librarie= alphabetically starting with 'A'. The restore can
not
restore=ogical files if the physicals do not already exist on the
system.
</TT=
In our case all of the System 21 and other libraries will be resto=ed
before
any of our custom 'Z' libraries.

I h=pe this makes sense as it is a very important concept.  Worst case
is   that if you did not use this library naming convention you wou=d
have to
manually recreate or restore all of your logicals af=er everything else
was
restored in a disaster.  However, =ou usually have plenty of other
things to
keep you busy in a d=saster and this would delay recovery.

Steve Prill
=enior I.S. Project Manager
Rexair LLC

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Sent: Wedn=sday, September 14, 2005 7:08 AM
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Bill,<BR=
It's common practice to suffix the file or program with a U. =eg. OEP72U

Also to put the object into a non GEAC lib=ary.  Eg.  OSLRICP3 for
programs
or OSLRICf3 for fil=s.

Associate a program with a task number in the 99xxxx ra=ge.

I hope that this helps.

Marcus.
</T=>
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Subject: [SYSTEM21] Creati=g PF's or LF's

When creating new PF's or LF's does GEAC re=ommend customer's using a
certain range when creating these fi=es so you don't duplicate a GEAC
file
name that may be used in=he future?  Also, is their a standard when
creating prog=am names also?

Bill Geissinger
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