RE: JBA ML - ERP system lifespan -- SYSTEM21

If you can make a deal with the contractor to hire
them as a "part-time employee" that would solve the
technical problem of letting a "Contractor" see the
code.

If they want to bring a lawsuit, let them try.  They
have already lost a similar suit over their D&B
software.  Check the archives for those articles.  Or
just search the internet for 'GEAC' - you will find
the articles.

You have to beat them at their own game - What they're
doing to you is criminal at best and economic
terrorisim at worst.  They are holding your business
hostage!

Complain loudly to anyone who will listen, ultimately
I think they backed down because of all the publicity
in the industry last year.  It sounds like there may
be a few instances of bad behavior remaining that need
to be resolved.  Good luck.

Keep fighting the good fight.

--- lbriggs@unipres.com wrote:
>
>
> Our frustration with Geac is that they refuse to
> provide us a contract for
> source code use that any one in their right mind
> would sign.  We need badly to
> upgrade to later service packs.
>
>  Unfortunately when the product was purchased a
> couple of years ago, the source
> code was not specifically included in the contract.
> We did however receive the
> Source code with the initial shipment and have made
> numerous modifications to
> the product.  Our position is that this gave us the
> right to use and receive
> updates forever, by our simply having the code
> freely given at the time of our
> purchase.
>
> As many of you know a year or so ago GEAC made a
> very bad decision regarding the
> distribution of their source code.  Their new policy
> attempts to extort all
> existing customers into using only their services
> and to not ever allow a
> contract programmer to as much as see the code, much
> less modify it.
>
> In my many years in this industry, I have signed
> many contracts that protected
> the software company from harm, by simply giving
> them recourse to prosecute if
> we violated the agreement by releasing the code to
> some unauthorized person or
> firm.
>
> For many years I was a consultant, and modified
> almost every package known to
> man at some time or another.  How is it that
> everyone else in this business has
> a reasonable contract except GEAC.
>
> Please if any or you can shed some light on this
> policy that would make one lick
> of sense, or if you have been successful in
> negotiating an agreement with GEAC
> that protected your companies own interests. or if
> you are someone in GEAC that
> would like to respond, please do.
>


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