• Subject: Re: Roll Call...
  • From: "Jim Sehi" <jsehi@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:30:46 -0700

I had heard the same thing regarding Explorer and the diminishing
importance (ie. replacement) of Client Workspace.  We are not using Style,
but are using a host of other System 21 applications (30-40 modules).  I
have been getting the same feelings regarding the integrity of the
database, functionality of the code, etc.  Some of the stuff they are
advertising seems to be only partially there at best.  On top of that, I
have been finding many integrity issues lately and have been pretty nervous
about some of the software running in a production environment without
modification.

The odd thing is that there are clients out there that seem generally happy
with the product and it makes me wonder if it is just me.  Maybe I'm too
picky, maybe I am too concerned about database integrity.... Maybe 10 years
of experience has taught me something too....

Any more thoughts o' wise one?

Jim Sehi

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From: Rob Rogerson <rogerson@interlog.com>
To: 'JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: Roll Call...
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 8:12 PM

We are going to Explorer.  I have been told that Explorer is JBA's
direction, there apparently will not be any more enhancements to Client
Workspace.  I am looking forward to seeing how the new software looks.  I
must admit that I have been less than impressed with some of the Style
product but I am hoping that version 3.5 adds a lot of functionality and
improves on the lack of integrity of the system.  
Maybe you or someone has a thought on this.  A colleague of mine is a DBA
who strongly believes in data integrity and tightly integral database.  He
said to me that he has noticed that the majority of the time when software
companies develop systems, usually there is little integrity in the
database.  It is almost solely accomplished by the programs.  He then
stated that maybe this is partially planned since a really tight database
can not be corrupted.  You can have the least experienced programmer write
erroneous code and a tight database just plain will  not accept it.  It is
almost impossible to screw it up.  On the other hand, with all the
integrity in the programs, should an inexperienced programmer make a
mistake then the software producer can charge an outrageous fee to correct
the corrupted data.  Oh well, just a thought....

Robert A. Rogerson

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jim Sehi [SMTP:jsehi@info2000.net]
Sent:   Sunday, November 16, 1997 11:52 AM
To:     JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: Roll Call...

Thanks for the feedback Rob, we are in the process of installing 3.5.0 and
I previewed the GUI in a demo last week... (both Client Workspace and
Explorer).  Explorer is not fully released yet is it?  Client Workspace
seemed little more than a screen scraper to me.

Jim Sehi

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> From: Rob Rogerson <rogerson@interlog.com>
> To: 'jbausers-l@midrange.com'
> Subject: Roll Call...
> Date: Sunday, November 16, 1997 6:51 AM
> 
> I'm here Jim.  We are about to move to STYLE version 3.5.1 in the spring.
 We are getting a 620e AS/400 deleivered next week with JBA scheduled to
install 3.5.0 the following week.  We will be going to the new GUI
interface so there will be a lot of learning and setup.
> 
> Rob Rogerson
> I.S. Software Ltd.
> 
> On behalf of Hanes Canada
> 
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