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Mike said:> In contrast if RPG was a Microsoft product there would have been forced change along the way that would prevent 20 year old code from running today and people who have code this old that still works would ...
Microsoft... i was not talking about M$
The problem is that most (i.e. 99,9%) RPG programmers dont want to learn new stuff. They simply don't want to, dont do it, unless they are forced to do it.
They *are* a lazy bunch, just waiting for their retirement
From: mike.cunningham@xxxxxxx
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:56:24 -0400
Subject: RE: Open Access for RPG
Don't pick out RPG programmers and put only them into this group. This behavior is across all aspects of everything people do. People, in general, resist change. Doesn't matter what the change is they resists it. What I think might make this more apparent in the IBM midrange environment is that IBM has done an exceptional job in keeping RPG backwards compatible. For the most part code written 20 years ago will still compile and run today. In contrast if RPG was a Microsoft product there would have been forced change along the way that would prevent 20 year old code from running today and people who have code this old that still works would have been forced to recode it at least every 5 years to have it work in a current compiler.
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Subject: RE: Open Access for RPG
> My experience so far tells me that RPG Programmers are a> lazy bunch > (exceptions prove the rule).
That's - very frustrating - my experience also for the last 20 years working in RPG environments.Trying to "persuade" (which to begin with i shouldn't have to do) an RPG programmer to learn something "new" is like pulling a dead horse.
I already gave up on this, and now i'm looking for an alternative development career because the AS/400 is really the best business platform out there but the development tools/people morale etc is pathetic. There is no future anymore in this platform.
> From: Mihael.Schmidt@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Open Access for RPG
> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:24:42 +0000
>
>
> > The truth is that the major part of iSeries programmers dosn't fit in > > to
> > iNetwork, Midrange.com or whatever - they are highly skilled in their
> > applications and may be resonable good programmers, but is either not
> > aware, has no experience or has fear to join a forum amoung so called
> > experts that in best case gives them three lines of code (with a lot
> > is expected to be understod) where the actually wanted an example.
> >
> > In other words, they are "holistic", programming is only a matter of
> > reaching the overall goal - to do their job or achive their goals.
> >
> > If you look back in the EASY400GROUP, Jon, you will find that many of
> > my examples is based on "working examples" or actual solutions, I > > never
> > answer people with one statement of code where they have to figure > > the
> > rest out for themselves.
>
> Join a forum/channel/newsgroup which handles some mainstream > programming language and provide a working example for some trivial > task/question and you'll find yourself being slapped for that. Why? > Because joining a forum/channel/etc is also about learning and not just > about letting other people do the work.
>
> My experience so far tells me that RPG Programmers are a lazy bunch > (exceptions prove the rule).
>
> Mihael
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