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The one question that always looms in my mind is why would you want to have something that emulates a different language so incredibly close, yet you don't get all of that language's benefits? For instance, if you are needing to develop GUI's for your company and you have the option to use languages that tout they are very similar to VB, why not just use VB? I can't imagine that ASNA's Visual RPG gets as many timely updates as VB or VB.net and you also don't have as large of a community (Please correct me if I am wrong on either of these points). If you are using this as a stepping stone to get to VB someday I would consider that a heavy price to pay. Now you have a lot of coding invested in a language that is rarely taught and may hold you to some of the restrictions that RPG imposes on you. **note** I am not a VB programmer, nor am I a ASNA's Visual RPG programmer so please correct me if you are not held to any of RPG's limitations, but I am guessing you are because of the fact that RPG is in the name. I compare this argument to people wanting to use Webfacing which is even worse, because you first need to develop your app like you normally would with DDS and then you also have to support a JSP of sorts, and if you change the JSP outside of the DDS your changes will be lost or mis-placed. Unless there are other ways to do Webfacing now vs. when I was taught. . . One thing that I have found to be interesting is that some people's reason for going GUI isn't for additional functionality but instead for looks. YIKES!! Aaron Bartell Mankato, MN -----Original Message----- From: Steve Landess [mailto:steve_landess@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 5:01 PM To: rpg400-l@midrange.com Subject: Re: Is RPG available on any other platform ? I have ASNA's Visual RPG (AVR) 4.0 for Windows. I think AVR is an outstanding product for standalone, client/server, and web development. They are currently working on a version that will be .NET-compliant. 1) The IDE (Integrated Development Environment) looks/works almost exactly like that for VB6/Visual Studio. However, because of its built-in database handling (using RPG-like file operation codes), IMO it is _much_ more productive than using a product like VB6 with ODBC or OLE DB. 2) It comes with an iSeries-like database (Acceler8DB) for developing standalone applications under Windows. 3) It has the ability to access the iSeries database using RPG file operation codes with ASNA's DataGate/400 database engine (sold separately). 4) It can also perform iSeries-like RPG access to SQL Server 2000 databases (using CHAIN, SETLL, etc.) with DataGate for SQL Server (sold separately). 5) It can also perform database access to databases such as Oracle using OLE DB. (No commercial relationship with ASNA) Steve Landess Austin, Texas (512) 423-0935
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