RE: Installing previous release compilers on V5R1?

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

Do you mean that we plan on the hardware and or software being obsolete in
under 6 years?  Well yes we do.  After all, a bulk of our PC's are obsolete
in under 6 years.  Why wouldn't our bigger iron?
Let's say you've got a $1,000,000 AS/400 running 800 users.  That's
$1,250/user.  But now let's say you are leasing.  And you'll find that your
cost per user may decrease when you upgrade.  After all, $1,250 buys a lot
more computer than it did 6 years ago.  Or even if your costs don't
decrease, you get a lot more power for little to no money more.

Rob Berendt
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin



                    "Bob Cozzi
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                    02/19/2002 10:59
                    AM
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Is this called "planned obsolescence"?

Bob Cozzi
cozzi@rpgiv.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com]
On
> Behalf Of rob@dekko.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:42 AM
> To: rpg400-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Installing previous release compilers on V5R1?
>
>
> V5R1 dropped the old trick of TGTRLS(V3R2M0) to support these older
> machines.  V5R1 only goes back to V4R4M0.
>
> If the individual locations cannot afford to upgrade then maybe
removing
> these machines and consolidating them onto the central location is a
better
> option.  We've got a whale of a central machine.  Everyone pays their
fair
> share.  We've discovered the following benefits:
> -Lower maintenance costs
> -Faster response time - the higher speed processor more than made up
for
> the comm line
> -Reduced down time.  We bring the remote's library only down long
enough to
> do their part of the backup.  Not for the whole duration of everyone's
> backup.
> -Lower leasing costs.  You pay more for leasing multiples.  Anyone who
> purchases a 400 needs to go study accounting.  You can't amortize the
> machine before you should upgrade.  You can guess that you purchased a
> machine large enough to run your current applications, allowing for
growth
> in your business.  Surprise - your applications change!  Now you're
doing
> Domino, ADSM, Web, a different ERP package and missed your growth
> projections also.  After all, it takes 6 years to amortize.  Who
WILLINGLY
> doesn't upgrade in that amount of time?
>
>
> Rob Berendt
> --
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> Benjamin Franklin
>
>
>
>                     "Peter Colpaert"
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>                     02/19/2002 10:04 AM
>                     Please respond to
>                     rpg400-l
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> We are presently considering updating our development machine to V5R1,
but
> there are some possible problems ahead.
>
> We have to support local production machines which run from V3R2M0
(CICS)
> to V5R1, so we have to cater for all.
>
> Upgrading the old machines is not an option (for monetary reasons of
> course).
>
> Does anybody know whether it is possible to install additional RPG,
RPGLE
> and CL compilers on a V5R1 box, so that you can compile for releases
prior
> to V4R4M0?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Peter Colpaert
> Application Developer
> Honda Europe NV
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