Re: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propoganda)

Actually, there are many standards we use every day programming.  Both
for the end product, the program, and the way we program it.

If we know that we enable F1 for all fields for help, that is a program
standard.  That says nothing about the way it is coded.  All programs will
use this certain standard library list, again, the way it works, not the
way it is coded.

I think we are talking about coding standards, however.  We will/will not
use ILE.  We will/will not use the cycle.  We will/will not use DoU or DoW.
The end user doesn't see these things, and couldn't care less in most
cases.  But, internal to our shops, we as programmers do care.  Are we
using RPG III or RPG IV (Oh, please use IV!).  It makes a big difference.
I think the biggest thing is that everyone abhers to the same standard,
if we agree with it or not.  Someone writes spool file output inline in
the program.  Someone writes spool file output in an external report
file.  Each programmer is going to have a hard time maintaining the other's
code.

Regards,

Jim Langston

Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni!

Peter Dow wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> Aren't you confusing the tool with the object being constructed? I've been
> assuming in this discussion that programs are being constructed to
> standards, i.e. they are not the tool, they are the product. Construction
> workers are in fact required by law to build a house to current standards.
> Nobody tells them what tools to use, but if my house was not constructed to
> standards, I'd be pretty upset, especially if it collapsed in the first
> earthquake that came along. Tools for a programmer would be SEU, SDA, RLU,
> RDA, etc, not the program they are writing.
> 
> Or perhaps (hope you've had time to digest lunch <bg>) you're thinking of
> application standards vs program standards, in which case you might say
> programs are the tools used to build the application, but even there I'd
> think of them as building blocks, not tools.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter Dow
> Dow Software Services, Inc.
> 909 425-0194 voice
> 909 425-0196 fax
> 
> From: "Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@taylorcorp.com>
> > And we're back to square one.  Why should a construction worker not use a
> > compound miter box because the rest of his team decided it was not a
> > standard tool to use?  Should he be made to always use a circular saw?
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