Re: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propoganda)

Hi Jim,

Actually, I'd consider using F1 for help to be an applications standard, but
perhaps that's just me. But I agree with your definition of coding
standards.

Regards,
Peter Dow
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 425-0194 voice
909 425-0196 fax

From: "Jim Langston" <jimlangston@conexfreight.com>
> If we know that we enable F1 for all fields for help, that is a program
> standard.  That says nothing about the way it is coded.  All programs will
> use this certain standard library list, again, the way it works, not the
> way it is coded.
>
> I think we are talking about coding standards, however.  We will/will not
> use ILE.  We will/will not use the cycle.  We will/will not use DoU or
DoW.
> The end user doesn't see these things, and couldn't care less in most
> cases.  But, internal to our shops, we as programmers do care.  Are we
> using RPG III or RPG IV (Oh, please use IV!).  It makes a big difference.
> I think the biggest thing is that everyone abhers to the same standard,
> if we agree with it or not.  Someone writes spool file output inline in
> the program.  Someone writes spool file output in an external report
> file.  Each programmer is going to have a hard time maintaining the
other's
> code.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Langston
>
> Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni!
>
> Peter Dow wrote:
> >
> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > Aren't you confusing the tool with the object being constructed? I've
been
> > assuming in this discussion that programs are being constructed to
> > standards, i.e. they are not the tool, they are the product.
Construction
> > workers are in fact required by law to build a house to current
standards.
> > Nobody tells them what tools to use, but if my house was not constructed
to
> > standards, I'd be pretty upset, especially if it collapsed in the first
> > earthquake that came along. Tools for a programmer would be SEU, SDA,
RLU,
> > RDA, etc, not the program they are writing.
> >
> > Or perhaps (hope you've had time to digest lunch <bg>) you're thinking
of
> > application standards vs program standards, in which case you might say
> > programs are the tools used to build the application, but even there I'd
> > think of them as building blocks, not tools.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter Dow
> > Dow Software Services, Inc.
> > 909 425-0194 voice
> > 909 425-0196 fax
> >
> > From: "Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@taylorcorp.com>
> > > And we're back to square one.  Why should a construction worker not
use a
> > > compound miter box because the rest of his team decided it was not a
> > > standard tool to use?  Should he be made to always use a circular saw?
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