Good point Al.

I know it's a subject that has been well worn but.......

If Al Z. says TV commercials aren't cost effective, does this mean the
millions that M$ is spending on it's OS TV commercials isn't well spent?
The commercials are targeted at companies and in some subtle ways for
companies that aren't even SMB's.......


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Would it surprise you to know that I don't scour the New York Times or the
Wall Street Journal for iSeries advertising?

So when I got your note, I went out and got a copy of the WSJ.  Amazing, an
iSeries ad!

It was a tad cold of IBM to point out the trademarks of IBM and Micro$oft,
and to lump the HP (Who the ad was focused on.  It was pointing out that HP
stopped shipping the HP3000 on October 31) into "other vendors".  (You need
to read the fine print.)

Anne, the next time you are going to do something staggering, like an
iSeries advertisement, how about posting a note the day before so we can
pick up whatever newspaper it is and show it to our bosses, who have grown
to feel that the AS/400 or iSeries is irrelevant, because IBM never
mentions it.

Al

PS:   What does a full page ad in the WSJ cost?

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Did anyone see the Wall Street Journal iSeries ad today?


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