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The difference between the programmer and the pig is that the pig is
probably trustworthy, loyal, friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful, thrifty,
brave, clean, and reverent--and didn't want to wrestle in the mud in the
first place.  For a good description of the normal tone of "just debating"
see Rudy Rucker's "The Hacker and the Ants."

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Foster, Willow [mailto:WFoster@friedmancorp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:49 AM
> To: 'midrange-nontech@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: What the heck is this AS/400 thing??
>
>
> I wrote:
> ~> He's a typical
> ~> programmer... you know the joke "arguing with a programmer
> ~> and wrestling a
> ~> pig in the mud.." Yep, that's my Boris. I expect he'll spend
>
> I hope ya'll know that I wasn't bashing programmers or
> anything! (I'm taking
> a programming class in the spring.) I don't want to offend
> anyone here, and
> since I'm new, I worry that what I said might not be taken as
> I meant it.. a
> very light-hearted joke. Boris was the first programmer I
> ever met. It took
> me a while to realize that when he's picking apart everything
> I say and
> driving me up a wall, he was just doing what comes natural to
> him. (He was
> often shocked that I would get angry. "What's wrong?? We just
> debating.." as
> I've got steam coming out of my ears.) I've found that many of his
> programmer friends are the same way. I hope you super-techies
> out there
> understand. :)
>
> Best,
> Willow
> _______________________________________________


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