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On Friday, July 11, 2025 at 03:22:32 PM EDT, Jason Olson <josys36@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What would you define as successful open source software?

Thanks,

Jason E. Olson
IBM i Python Engineer/Developer
josys36@xxxxxxxxx



On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 10:19 AM Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Successful" open source is few and far between.  Has been for many years.
Everyone wants something for free these days.  That's all the open source
movement is to most.  Free stuff.

But those who put their heart and soul into open source and contribute I
applaud.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:37 PM Infodorado InfoDorado via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

To me, the way one company alone decides what happens with a hardware or
software product, as demonstrated in this discussion. Tech companies try
to
lock the customer handcuffed to whatever the maestro has. From what I saw
from a distance, Oracle is an extreme example of lock-in: it looks like
their software is made to resist out-migration.

Long story short, in my opinion, if the world as we know it lasts that
long, copyright law and patent law is eventually going to go the way of
the
dodo bird. Might happen slow for awhile, then all at once.

Open and free software at least is already on the way. It's gotten
stalled, because momentum, and because of my point. It becomes
complicated
and even costly for a business to migrate systems.

IBM i shops already are adopting open source. Apache, multi-layer
communications protocol, Linux here, Linux there.

Even patents. A Kaypro customer at one company that made parts for
copiers
early in the PC era told me that every time they innovated some new
thing,
that a Japanese company would change some little thing and they would
get a
brand new patent. A CFO at one company I worked at in Cuba, said a
mechanic
for the farm collective he worked for asked him to pick up a Ford (1954 I
think) truck manual, on his trip to Havana, that the mechanic said he
needed to fix a Soviet-made truck, because it's exactly the same truck.
Patents sham-ments.

-aec


On 07/09/2025 10:24 AM EDT Rob Berendt <robertowenberendt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


If one is currently in such a situation, where they are just treading
water
until a conversion is done, then their existing permanent license will
be
sufficient.  Granted, in the future this may be more difficult.  It
will
take more planning on the part of the project manager.

But the days of continuing to run on that Windows 3.1 box, or that IBM
i
7.1 release, are behind us now.  The security risks are too high.

Those of us anxious to get fully on to IBM i 7.6, but vendors are
fighting
tooth and nail against putting some of that maintenance money into
hardware
or software upgrades, are getting upset.

Energy prices?  I would think that the newer models would consume less
energy.



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