Re: How has/will AI impacted the RPGLE community?

One major issue is ownership. Things like WATSONX apparently say that everything used to "train" has to be publicly visible - I may not have the right wording.


I'm hearing of discussions in at least one context, that companies won't put any of their historical data on any public AI site - why give away to competitors what has taken years to accumulate?

So maybe there will come to be private "chatgpt" sites - although if the engine used requires openness, there might be a challenge again.


Regards
Vern


On Wed, 10 Jul, 2024 at 3:31 PM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


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Yes, I know. I'm a member of the initial "outsiders" group involved in the project.


Jon P.

On Jul 10, 2024, at 4:18 PM, <tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx>> <tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Seems like IBM is moving forward with attempting to use AI in support of RPGLE. They're specifically using some 'tool' named Granite that they are trying to 'teach' RPGLE and SQL. They are even arranging for organizations to send them code to use for 'teaching' this tool, with presumed restrictions on who gets to see the code, etc.
They want it to be able to 'read' RPGLE code and give an English textual description of what the code actually does. They have already been able to give it general instructions like 'based on this SQL database definition, write a maintenance program'. They have other plans too.

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If it is ever done it won't be by IBM. No mileage in it for them,


Jon P.

On Jul 10, 2024, at 3:28 PM, <tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx>> <tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:tgarvey@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hello, everyone,



Just attended the IBM AI Strategy and Update webinar and thought I
might stimulate some discussion.



Seems like a year ago or so when I attended a webinar of a software
vendor who introduced how they were integrating AI into their product.
The demonstration included use of ChatGPT (I think) in which the tool
was told that it understood RPGLE code and a request was made of the
tool to write an RPGLE procedure to perform some minimal mathematic
function. It responded with a clean RPGLE procedure to do that, and it
was compiled and tested. Then the RPGLE source was modified to be
incorrect and the tool was asked to verify the function source code
was correct. The tool found the mistake and pointed out the source code error and suggested a correction.

I was impressed.



Now I'm wondering if ChatGPT has been improved enough to do something like:

Given source code for a simple RPGLE green screen entry panel, convert
that code to Visual Basic.



It's exciting to see the direction IBM is going, based on today's
webinar, but I'm wondering how we might be eventually impacted by these developments?



Any thoughts, opinions? Anybody seen ChatGPT convert RPGLE to VB?



Kind Regards,



Thomas Garvey



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