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Ah, but trying to use Dual VIOS on a puny 64Gb RAM machine kills a good %
of the available RAM, I would rather use direct attached Flashsystems and
be done with it. The System Planning Tool and sales manual concur in that
it is possible to use EN1A cards, and the old "external storage matrix" for
IBM i says that Flashsystems are still compatible as long as you set the
NPIV mode to transitional or disabled (obviously, otherwise you would need
a switch) And you still don't need an HMC.

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 12:02, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On those boxes, if you get at least two fibre cards, simply boot the dual
vios from SAN, and virtualize the SAN storage via VIOS. Now the limitation
on the size of the internal storage is eliminated. If the system was
ordered with dual NVMe cards then the 3.2TB partition can be used for
test/dev etc.
This solution DOES require an HMC.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 9:48 AM Rob Berendt <robertowenberendt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Ok, now I understand.
<snip>
Ideally, it would be nice to be able to have external storage appear as
ASP
like we can with the P10s.
</snip>
I believe you can use external storage on those. In fact I remember a
discussion on using VIOS to host external storage. There was some
discouragement on dual VIOS lpars on those models.

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 4:52 PM Troy Hyde <troy.hyde@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm a programmer, not a hardware guy so I hope this question makes
sense.

My company has over 200 clients running Power 10s. These are either
P05s
or P10s. For the large majority of those, the only reason they spend
the
extra money for the P10 is to get more storage. The memory and
processor
limits on the P05 are rarely an issue. However, the 3.2 gb limit on the
system ASP is becoming more so. The price differences between the two
groups is not insignificant. A recent example: P05 with 5-year SWMA ≈
$96,000.00. P10 with 5-year SWMA ≈ $201,000.00

I'm sure everyone is experiencing an explosion of data as we are.

My question is simply this: Is there a way, using VIOS or something
else,
to increase the amount of storage available to the server? We are
already
using various strategies to move some of the data off the server.
Ideally,
it would be nice to be able to have external storage appear as ASP like
we
can with the P10s. I'd really love to go into WRKSYSSTS and see System
ASP
3200G.

Thanks for any illumination.

Troy
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