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Nope...

A view should have explicit column list, just like you can a logical file.

Charles


On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 9:46 AM Mark Waterbury <
mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Charles,

But, what happens some developer does an "ALTER TABLE ..." on the base
table to change the width of some column(s), or deletes some column(s)?

The "data structure" for that VIEW (record layout) is "locked in" to the
*PGM at the time the program was compiled. So, any changes that would
affect the view and its "record layout" will NOT be immediately reflected,
without recreating the VIEW and recompiling the program, as far as I can
tell.

This whole approach seems to be a step backward, without the benefit of
"level checking" that the OS normally provides, tossing out one of the main
benefits of using SQL versus "native I/O" ... with SQL, a program normally
depends only on the table names and column names, and how the host
variables are defined -- there is not a dependency on the "record layout"
-- but with a data structure, you are re-introducing this dependency.

Just saying ...

Mark S. Waterbury






On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:35:46 AM EDT, Charles Wilt <
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Easy to reuse the same set of columns...

You could use the view both for the DS and the UPDATE column list...

Charles



On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 8:28 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Then what's the point of using a data structure in this case?

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Some good points Rob...

But the work-a-round is the same as it should be for RPG RLA... the DS
should not be defined using the physical table. Instead, it should be a
view/LF with an explicit column list.

One of the advantages of SQL is that it allows you to disconnect the
physical layout of the data, but only if you use an explicit column list.

Charles

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 7:40 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You may want to rethink that. Suppose you add derived columns, or
those
which have default values. Examples include some of the timestamp, job
user, etc columns used for temporal tables. Do you really want to
manually
override these? IDK if making these columns implicitly hidden would
remove
them from appearing in the data structure.

But if you're sure you want to do that then google is your friend
https://www.rpgpgm.com/2018/01/using-rpg-data-structures-with-sql.html



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Good morning folks,

I am updating a file. I have an externally defined data structure
defined with EXTNAME().

I can't find a specific reference anywhere, but is there a syntax to
use
that data structure to update the row in the table, like so, maybe?

UPDATE TABLE1 SET TABLERECD = :TABLE-DS WHERE KEY1 = VALUE1 AND KEY2
=
VALUE2?

I have just seven fields to list out, and I'm doing that, but I just
wondered if there was a way to do the above (without having to input
with an update lock)?

Reason I'm asking is for the future, if I could set it up that way, it
would make it easier to add changes to other columns, and maybe other
thins.

--Alan Cassidy

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