Best keyboard EVER.....  But, as I recall, you had to snip a wire to quiet the clicker.
Those terminals were beasts....
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Hi Patrik,
I think you can add;
5251 Model 11 - Local terminal and
5251 model 12 - remote workstation and controller
These devices originally for S34, S38 I am sure were also used on AS400
I remember very well that the keyboards were, in my opinion, really great. 
 The positioning and size of the keys, but most importantly the feel of 
the key press.
I was one of the last programmers to have my 5251 replaced with a 3196 and 
I fought that day for a long time!!!
Cheers
Don
From:   "Patrik Schindler" <poc@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:     "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" 
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Date:   25/05/2021 10:34 PM
Subject:        Re: Dedicated console
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Hello James,
Am 21.05.2021 um 19:20 schrieb James H. H. Lampert 
<jamesl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
[...] I am a terminal-jock, from the beginning.
Interesting read, thanks for that!
My very first AS/400 experience was with a 3487-HC.
Which features did this model have? It's not too easy to find information 
about models and sub-models of 5250 terminals today. Hmm.
I've started a table on 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftry-as400.pocnet.net%2Fwiki%2FIBM_Twinax-Terminals_Overview&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3f46ce21492744e368b408d91fcc7028%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637575785190245869%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DVHmhFKW2Uud9t5yIXM4nGpPlUitIpFCD9N%2BXRM9GYU%3D&reserved=0 from what 
I've found in the English wikipedia's 5250 article.
If anybody has further information to fill missing fields, or expand the 
table, please let me know.
And I find it extremely irritating that no emulator that has ever 
enjoyed official IBM support has even come close to the elegant aesthetics 
of a 3487,
I don't have 3487, only two green 3486-BGX (one with a tube with a broken 
neck - searching for a replacement tube in Europe! Biggest problem is to 
find one with the same screen slope. Electrically I can adapt almost any 
monochrome tube.), a 3477-HCX, and a 3477 with a white phosphor tube. 
Unfortunately, I can't find out the name.
and that IBM has thrown out a connectivity technology as bulletproof as 
Twinax.
See fellow commenters remarks. For me, Twinax is by far the easiest 
solution for having a console attached. If the machine has Twinax, and 
there's a Twinax-Terminal, though.
:wq! PoC
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