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Re: Backup Tape rotation with Corona-virus

Ts2900 or 3100 about $500 or so. Tape will be $1000. Make sure to get
rails another $75 or so.

RDX drive less. USB stick, really cheap.

We do it all the time for customers to have a cheap way to get portable
storage.

Get the tape drive from a reputable used parts outfit so you can be sure
they are not failed prior to selling.



On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:36 PM Diego Kesselman <diegokesselman@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

SAS TS2900 with LTO 6/7/8 is a cheap autoloader and you can put 8
cartridges inside.and move using BRMS commands or web UI

El lun., 8 de junio de 2020 18:20, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

You can get a single tape unit (SAS or fiber) and a 1u rack mount. I
have
several. They work fine understanding the will need manual load/unload.

BTW change the device to NOT unload at vary off or you’ll make a trip or
two to the tape unit until you remember to do that.

You could also get an RDX drive and use the USB 3 port. That’s
cheapest.


On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:47 PM midrange <franz9000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Can I ask a side question in this thread - what is a bare bones
appliance
(that supports BRMS) in the rack with Power I to back up to cost? About
250gb in use.

Jim


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Rob Berendt
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Subject: RE: Backup Tape rotation with Corona-virus

Present some alternatives.

One alternative is new mylar libraries with the monthly recurring cost
of
using Iron Mountain to run tapes back and forth on a daily basis and
the
2-3
hours a day to manually prepare the tapes for shipment and receive them
back
in. Plus the cost of training a backup person to do it so you can go
on
vacation. Make sure you quote the latest LTOx models available from
IBM
and
the cost of all those tape cartridges which ain't cheap.
Also quote that every x years you'll need to duplicate all the tapes
from
LTOx to LTOy. Been through that a few times. Changing it out will let
you
know that the tape drives are on a model supported by IBM, and the
drive
is
supported by your latest hardware, and the mylar hasn't gone bad in
that
time frame. Especially applicable for those archive tapes you append
to
at
year end only. Gosh, I really do not miss mylar.



Rob Berendt
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I will be honest I was/am a little uneducated in this area.
I did some research on this and have been reading your comments.
I was hoping to be able to do it all in house with what we currently
have.
I am not sure the man with the money will want to spend any money. I
am
willing to talk to him about it.

Kerwin


On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm so confident in our VTL and it's replication to the offsite
center
that on Friday June 19 I plan on saving 10 lpars of IBM i, 5 on a
Power 8
and 5 on a Power 9, to our VTL. Then on Saturday the VTL and both
power
systems will be loaded on the same truck and shipped to a different
data
center.
And, the last time we did a data center migration the truck driver
ripped
the side off of the IBM rack before he even loaded it on the truck.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko
Dept 1600
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Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
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I highly recommend Data Domain.

Data Domain works great with IBM i and BRMS.
Plus, it supports other backup products such as Veeam on the same
box.

We backup Exchange, IBM i, Linux, SQL Server and Windows to them.
Have a local appliance and a remote target appliance for backup
replication.

Bob Schwartz
Director of Technology Services
Glynn County Schools

-----Original Message-----
date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 14:00:54 -0500
from: K Crawford <kscx3ksc@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Backup Tape rotation with Corona-virus.

I like what I am hearing. VTL replicated between two different data
centers.
We are currently using BMRS.
If I can get a VTL between our two boxes using BRMS I think everyone
would
be happy.
Can you point me in the right direction? Redbook, web site,
documentation?

Kerwin

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