RE: Backup Tape rotation with Corona-virus

Can I ask a side question in this thread - what is a bare bones appliance
(that supports BRMS) in the rack with Power I to back up to cost? About
250gb in use.

Jim


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Subject: RE: Backup Tape rotation with Corona-virus

Present some alternatives.

One alternative is new mylar libraries with the monthly recurring cost of
using Iron Mountain to run tapes back and forth on a daily basis and the 2-3
hours a day to manually prepare the tapes for shipment and receive them back
in. Plus the cost of training a backup person to do it so you can go on
vacation. Make sure you quote the latest LTOx models available from IBM and
the cost of all those tape cartridges which ain't cheap.
Also quote that every x years you'll need to duplicate all the tapes from
LTOx to LTOy. Been through that a few times. Changing it out will let you
know that the tape drives are on a model supported by IBM, and the drive is
supported by your latest hardware, and the mylar hasn't gone bad in that
time frame. Especially applicable for those archive tapes you append to at
year end only. Gosh, I really do not miss mylar.



Rob Berendt
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I will be honest I was/am a little uneducated in this area.
I did some research on this and have been reading your comments.
I was hoping to be able to do it all in house with what we currently have.
I am not sure the man with the money will want to spend any money. I am
willing to talk to him about it.

Kerwin


On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm so confident in our VTL and it's replication to the offsite center
that on Friday June 19 I plan on saving 10 lpars of IBM i, 5 on a Power 8
and 5 on a Power 9, to our VTL. Then on Saturday the VTL and both power
systems will be loaded on the same truck and shipped to a different data
center.
And, the last time we did a data center migration the truck driver ripped
the side off of the IBM rack before he even loaded it on the truck.

Rob Berendt
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I highly recommend Data Domain.

Data Domain works great with IBM i and BRMS.
Plus, it supports other backup products such as Veeam on the same box.

We backup Exchange, IBM i, Linux, SQL Server and Windows to them.
Have a local appliance and a remote target appliance for backup
replication.

Bob Schwartz
Director of Technology Services
Glynn County Schools

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date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 14:00:54 -0500
from: K Crawford <kscx3ksc@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Backup Tape rotation with Corona-virus.

I like what I am hearing. VTL replicated between two different data
centers.
We are currently using BMRS.
If I can get a VTL between our two boxes using BRMS I think everyone would
be happy.
Can you point me in the right direction? Redbook, web site,

documentation?

Kerwin

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