Jeff:


With a due respect, the image catalog IS the simplest and easiest method.
Particularly with clean up of old stuff that just needs to go away.
(reference thread a short while back about cleaning up SAVF in QGPL).

Don’t let “I’ve done it that way forever” stop doing the best thing.

It’s also faster than save files.



On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:33 AM Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

DLVRYFMT(*IMAGE) tells SNDPTFORD to download an image catalog instead of
individual *SAVFs.

Did not know that was available. But I won't use it as I only have a
single IBM i. I believe in KISS and the way I'm doing it is the simplest,
longterm.




On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:28 AM Art Tostaine, Jr. <atostaine@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

How do you use SNDPTFORD to download 17 only?

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:20 AM DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Then you're doing it wrong. :-)

It's been a Looooong time since this became an option but
DLVRYFMT(*IMAGE) tells SNDPTFORD to download an image catalog instead
of
individual *SAVFs. Safe to say at LEAST i 7.1 had this option. You
then
get to specify:

Image option . . . *DOWNLOAD or *ORDER(use WRKPTFORD to download)
Image directory .
Image prefix . . .
Image catalog . .


Yes there are times *SAVFs are useful and for someone with only one IBM
i instance they are usable. They are not easily distributed however and
are not easily cleaned up either. And in situations such as this you
don't know which *SAVF goes with which group so there's that too. :-)

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 12/3/2019 3:21 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
Jim - I'm sorry if I'm being dense and confused, but I am :)

I do SNDPTFORD, so no image catalog.

- both 16 and 17 are on my system as Not Applied
- DSPPTFCVR *NOTAPY shows *ONLY* MF99207 set to apply at IPL
- I cannot set any more to apply right now because I get "PTF
5770999-MF99207 V7R3M0 requires IPL"

Is this my course of action:

- Do an IPL so MF99207 applies
- then do INSPTF LICPGM((*ALL)) INSTYP(*DLYALL) which will get every
other
PTF set to apply
- do another IPL which will then do both level 16 and 17

I'm asking because in earlier emails both you and Larry said to NOT
do
that
with both 16 and 17 there, then in this latest email you suggest
because
17
is there, I'll be OK,

My system is in the cloud, so the cloud provider is in the loop. I'd
like
for this group and the cloud provider to agree.

Sorry to be so anal-retentive, but the stakes are pretty high.

Thanks.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:46 PM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

IF 17 is on already you should be past the problem entirely.

How to you apply these that it would be not applied? Did not IPL
from
the
image catalog?

In any case, IPL and it should be OK because 17 is there.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of
Jeff
Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

How do I discard it? WRKPTFGRP and option 4=Delete it? I've never
done
that before.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:11 PM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Don't attempt to apply 16, that will cause issues. Discard it.
Apply
17.

The only way 16 does not cause issues is if you are very current on
HIPER and DB groups to start with, mainly the HIPER. It's best
just
to
avoid it.

17 has the co/pre requisite table corrected so the process will
work
as expected.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of
Jeff Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 12:43 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

Like you Paul I have both level 16 and 17 as Not Applied.

If I do DSPPTFCVR SELECT(*NOTAPY), those 2 level 16 PTFs do not
show.

Do a:

DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1) SELECT(SI71241) DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1)
SELECT(SI71254)

and both show as Superseded.

I wonder if Larry still thinks it is dangerous to apply both 16 and
17
at the same time . . .



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