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EGL - could have been a world leader - In many ways it was. People like Joe did amazing things with it - but for me its failure was inevitable when it did not embrace off-the-shelf Javascript libraries etc. That raised the maintenance and enhancement costs massively - when it didn't sell the way its promoters had said it would in the end there was no revenue stream left to support it and the part of IBM that owned it got bored and moved off to new shiny things. By the time they attempted to open source it it was too late. The world had moved on and nobody wanted to buy into an IBM vision when jQuery and other options were widespread.

In some ways the same sad tale (and some of the same people were responsible) killed VARPG. The owners of the graphic components got bored and left the VARPG team to fend for themselves. When massive changes were needed to support new Windows versions the development team (who had never been funded to develop the graphical bits) had no choice but to abandon the product in the absence of a supportive revenue stream.

Sad but ...

On Oct 24, 2019, at 10:24 PM, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Talk about a huge strategic mistake. EGL turned the entire ecosystem into a cohesive, distributed application environment. I created some fantastically powerful web-based tools with that language, and I was just starting to do mobile when the writing on the wall became painfully clear.

That was when I gave up on IBM as a leading edge strategic player in the business systems world.



On 10/24/2019 1:32 PM, Jason Olson wrote:
I still have your book on egl Joe.

Jason

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:10 PM Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

IBM learning a lesson isn't always a given.

Joe "I remember EGL" Pluta



On 10/23/2019 2:38 PM, DrFranken wrote:
It works better and better.

And IBM has shown for well after a decade and continues to state
publicly that they ain't changin the name again. They learned that
lesson.

If you'll believe that IBM intends to continue shipping new Technology
Refreshes and new releases and new POWER Chips along with new hardware
bits far into the future, then why not believe them when they say
they ain't changing the name again?!?

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