Re: IBM I as a web server?

On Nov 26, 2018, at 8:02 PM, Don Brown <DBrown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Does the PHP and CGIDEV2 both go through the same HTTP server ? Which HTTP
Server ?

Maybe Paul will chime in with a copy of his presentation ... hopefully!



Don Brown

"MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 27/11/2018 10:57:31
AM:

From: "Jon Paris" <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange-L Midrange-l" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 27/11/2018 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: IBM I as a web server?
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Oh - that's hard to answer. Paul could do a better job - he has a
[presentation on how it is built but I can't put my hands on it.

By the way - I didn't mention the fact that the static pages are
also built dynamically from the maintenance system. Most of those
are CGIDEV2 using SQL/Stored procedures behind it.

As to your question on mixing the two.

Some of the screens are straight CGIDEV2, some are straight PHP. The
majority of the pages the user will see (as opposed to the site
administrators) are CGIDEV2. The bulk of the pages that are used
behind the scenes are PHP.

But all are "mixed" to some degree using Javascript to call backend
functions - some of those backend functions are RPG and some are PHP.

For example one part is a multi-tab interface which you step
through. It culminates in a PHP script being called to set-up the
credit card processing, once that completes the confirmation email
is also sent by PHP with back end RPG processes providing the data.

Hard to describe because it has "evolved" over time.

Hope this helps a bit.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Nov 26, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Don Brown <DBrown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Jon, I am interested in a comment in your reply below -
"(We run a web site for our business (SystemiDeveloper.com
<http://systemideveloper.com/>) where the dynamic pages are is built

from >

RPG CGI (CGIDEV2 for the most part), PHP, SQL and RPG stored >

procedures,

and more.)"

I have done a little bit with CGIDEV2 a long time back and we are doing
more with PHP now but how do you combine both ? are they separate parts

of

the website or are you using both on the same page or could you advise

how

this all fits together ? Just trying to understand the mechanics of

using

both these tools together.

Thanks

Don Brown




"MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 27/11/2018

10:15:09

AM:

From: "Jon Paris" <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange-L Midrange-l" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 27/11/2018 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: IBM I as a web server?
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

There is nothing "turn of the century" about _anything_ that has
been suggested Booth.

As I'm sure you know, in this crazy world of IT there is always
something "new and shiny" coming along.

For example many things that you may read as negatives against CGI
are in part because a) someone wants to sell you on the new shiny
thing and b) because many of the issues with CGI apply to other
platforms, but were dealt with in the IBM i Apache version and so
are not an issue.

There is never a "best" solution. It is always a balance between
what you need, the skills you have, available tolling, and of course

$s.

We run a web site for our business (SystemiDeveloper.com <http://
systemideveloper.com/>) where the dynamic pages are is built from
RPG CGI (CGIDEV2 for the most part), PHP, SQL and RPG stored
procedures, and more. While it is due for an overhaul looks wise it
works very well.

When I have worked with clients I have used PHP, CGIDEV2, PowerExt,
the IWS and more. So some Apache based stuff, some IWS stuff.
Whatever fits the job and works for the client. Increasingly I'm
seeing a need for node.js and (much as I dislike Javascript) will
have to get into that in the future, just as the introduction of
Mono and .Net core means I'll have to at least get a basic
understanding of those technologies.

Pick a technology and learn it. Then pick another and learn that.
Stop looking for the "right" answer - there isn't one other than
sometimes for a very specific set of circumstances.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Nov 26, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am pretty sure I am not saying that nor anything close to it.

I am trying to move forward, get new knowledge, and am being told

that turn of the century stuff is good enough.

No wonder we get the reputation we do.

And yes, I struggled off and on for months. And yes, people on

Midrange helped a lot. I understand and appreciate that.

On 11/26/2018 3:31 PM, Bradley Stone wrote:

So you struggled with this for months, got help from many people on

the

list, and now you're going to suggest maybe the Apache server is

outdated

when others are saying it's not and a super stable platform?

Cmon, Booth.

Bradley V. Stone
www.bvstools.com
MAILTOOL Benefit #12<https://www.bvstools.com/mailtool.html>: Both

Text

and HTML email support

--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L)

mailing

list

To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: https://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at https://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.

Please contact support@xxxxxxxxxxxx for any subscription related

questions.

Help support midrange.com by shopping at amazon.com with our

affiliate link: https://amazon.midrange.com

--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing

list

To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: https://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at https://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.

Please contact support@xxxxxxxxxxxx for any subscription related

questions.

Help support midrange.com by shopping at amazon.com with our affiliate

link:

https://amazon.midrange.com

______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud

service.

For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
______________________________________________________________________

______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud

service.

For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
______________________________________________________________________
--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing

list

To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: https://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at https://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.

Please contact support@xxxxxxxxxxxx for any subscription related

questions.

Help support midrange.com by shopping at amazon.com with our

affiliate link: https://amazon.midrange.com

--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing

list

To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: https://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at https://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.

Please contact support@xxxxxxxxxxxx for any subscription related

questions.

Help support midrange.com by shopping at amazon.com with our affiliate

link:

https://amazon.midrange.com

______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
______________________________________________________________________

______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
______________________________________________________________________
--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list
To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: https://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at https://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.

Please contact support@xxxxxxxxxxxx for any subscription related questions.

Help support midrange.com by shopping at amazon.com with our affiliate link: https://amazon.midrange.com