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RE: Has IBM announced any reaction to Oracle's announced end of public updates for JDK 8

Greetings. Thought I would chime in with the IBM i view of Java.

Java on IBM i as delivered through the JV1 product is not the Oracle
version of Java. You are using the IBM version of Java and you will
continue to have support as that is all covered in your IBM i support
contracts. As we look to the future of Java, our plans are to support each
of the long term version of Java. Currently that is Java 11.

Access Client Solutions (ACS) prior to version 1.1.8 will run on any
version Java. Once you are at 1.1.8 you to run on Java 8 or higher. So
this means we can and already support running on Java 9 and Java 10, etc.
Also, yes you can run on the IBM version of java. Also ACS can run on s
different version that is what is considered the default for the PC. For
details on getting the IBM version of Java follow the instructions
below....

At this point we have no plans on changing ACS to include a JVM.

IBM Java instructions.....


* Go to this website:
[1]https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/downloads/#tab_eclipse

At some point you will need to sign into Developer works using an ID.
If you don't have one, you can create one.
* Download either the 32 or 64 bit version. The example below is for
64 bit.
I suggest using the "Download using http" tab.

For 64 bit, you will get this zip file:
IBM_DevelopmentPackage_for_Eclipse_Win_X86_64_6.3.20.zip

For the example below, I put the zip file at:
C:\IBM_DevelopmentPackage

Extract the IBM JDK using either jar or unzip, or some other zip file
extraction tool. You can extract everything, or just the ibm jre as
follows:
jar xvf IBM_DevelopmentPackage_for_Eclipse_Win_X86_64_6.3.20.zip
eclipseDevelopmentPackage/ibm_sdk80

When starting ACS, point it to the IBM JRE using the -vm parameter
from the command line:
Start_Programs\Windows_x86-64\acslaunch_win-64.exe -vm
C:\IBM_DevelopmentPackage\eclipseDevelopmentPackage\ibm_sdk80




*

Tim Rowe, timmr@xxxxxxxxxx
Business Architect Application Development & Systems Management for IBM i
IBM i Development Lab, Rochester, MN
(507) 253-6191 (Tie) 553-6191

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1. RE: Has IBM announced any reaction to Oracle's announced end
of public updates for JDK 8 (Steinmetz, Paul)
2. Web Admin permissions/roles (Justin Taylor)
3. RE: database connection errors (Justin Taylor)
4. Re: Web Admin permissions/roles (Nadir Amra)
5. Re: What are micro-services? (Jack Woehr)
6. Re: Web Admin permissions/roles (Rob Berendt)
7. RE: Web Admin permissions/roles (Therrien, Paul)

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message: 1
date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 11:47:08 +0000
from: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Has IBM announced any reaction to Oracle's announced end
of public updates for JDK 8

IBM i Slated to Support Java 11
[4]https://www.itjungle.com/2018/07/25/ibm-i-slated-to-support-java-11/

Paul

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Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Has IBM announced any reaction to Oracle's announced end of
public updates for JDK 8

Another piece of this puzzle.
Oracle was only referring to the Java SE in the announcement.
There is Java SDK, JRE, JVM, Java SE Runtime, and J2SE.
Most of our Java deployments are SDK or JRE.
Our IT folks conclusion is this announcement will have little or no
impact.

[6]https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Java-SDK-JRE-JVM-Java-SE-Runtime-and-J2SE

Paul

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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Has IBM announced any reaction to Oracle's announced end of
public updates for JDK 8

Rob
I think the point is that non-ibm-i-based programs like ACS currently
depend on Oracle's Java by default. IBM should start shipping ACS with
the
IBM JRE to simply the end-user's life. It's been said that we can just
place a JRE on the same folder and ACS will happily use it but, in the
five
minutes I devoted to it, I haven't been able to find a quick way to
download and install the IBM JRE...
Best Regards,
Roberto

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:50 PM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> A couple of my thoughts.
>
> 1 - Two years will FLY by. We're halfway through 2018 already.
Vendors
> need to plan NOW! They have huge development cycles and often look at
> maintenance money as a cash cow and feel it's stupid to waste that on
> product development. Also consider this statement:
> "Oracle will continue to provide Public Updates and auto updates of
Java
> SE 8, until at least the end of December 2020 for Personal Users, and
> January 2019 for Commercial Users."
> January 2019 is rapidly approaching.
> However compare the table "Java SE Public updates" with the table
"Oracle
> Java SE support roadmap" and you see the "premier" support going out
> several more years. Perhaps Java on IBM i falls under this?
> But basically Java on IBM i looks to be at least two releases behind.
>
> 2 - It matters not one whit, not one teeny tiny bit, that IBM will
address
> some CVE security concern with JDK 8 with a PTF when it comes to audit
> time. All the security scan has to say is that you are running an
> outdated form of JVM and you fail the audit. Some might argue that
the
> security scan should see if the individual CVE is addressed but when
you
> consider the effort to test a CVE on a periodic scan may involve some
> serious CPU crunching and be detrimental to performance you can see
why
> they don't do this. And do you really want them testing a CVE which
says
> "if you do this, that and the other thing you can expect to see smoke
> rising out of the back of your system, Interpol at your door and
perhaps
> even some serious consequences"?
>
>
>
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message: 2
date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:55:28 +0000
from: Justin Taylor <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Web Admin permissions/roles

I'm trying to connect to my IBM Web Administration for i
([18]http://myIBMi:2001/HTTPAdmin/). I'm getting this error:
ZUI_50044: IBM i user profile &1 does not have *IOSYSCFG and *ALLOBJ
authorities or has not been granted permission which is required to use
the administration interface of IBM HTTP Server for i.

I went back thru the archives and found an old discussion. It led me to
this IBM link,
[19]https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_73/rzaie/rzaieconadminwebadmin.htm.
The link talks about roles and permissions, but I don't see anything
about how to actually set them. Has anyone done this?

TIA

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message: 3
date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:58:03 +0000
from: Justin Taylor <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: database connection errors

To your question, I'd say yes (but it might depend on exactly what you
changed). Whenever I make a big change, I consider it safer just to end
all the unused QZDASOINIT jobs.

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bipes [[20]mailto:chris.bipes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 4:07 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: database connection errors

We are still having problems with our WebSphere application connecting
to our iSeries at V7R1. We have all the latest groups installed.

This is what I received from our programming department manager:

Same error messages from last week from Java applications: "The
application requester cannot establish the connection. (Socket operation
on nonsocket: connect)".

PHP applications are throwing the same errors, just with different
messaging.

These applications open multiple connections, why well I do not know.
We get all sorts of application failures as it sends new request to our
iSeries for data. Each step displays a different error to the user but
the underlying error is always a connection issue.

QUESTION:
After changing a pre-start job entry for qrwtsrvr and qdazsoinit jobs,
do you have to restart the PJ for it to take affect?

Chris Bipes
Director of Information Services
CrossCheck, Inc.

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message: 4
date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:00:40 -0500
from: "Nadir Amra" <amra@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Web Admin permissions/roles

On the web admin GUI, click on the Advanced tab.

"MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 07/25/2018
07:55:28 AM:

> From: Justin Taylor <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "MIDRANGE-L (midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx)" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 07/25/2018 07:55 AM
> Subject: Web Admin permissions/roles
> Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> I'm trying to connect to my IBM Web Administration for i (https://
> urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?
> u=http-3A__myIBMi-3A2001_HTTPAdmin_&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-
> siA1ZOg&r=1i-jGlz0-JTK1aLHcsU-
>
ew&m=CvT_eiiWToy2vOp0_2Rctc9SD_Jw8gJFfXXStJO8NeE&s=9TusVQkiMpkO955X49vNtq44Do7t-
> VbE_DD1m6Slriw&e=). I'm getting this error:
> ZUI_50044: IBM i user profile &1 does not have *IOSYSCFG and *ALLOBJ
> authorities or has not been granted permission which is required to
> use the administration interface of IBM HTTP Server for i.
>
> I went back thru the archives and found an old discussion. It led
> me to this IBM link, [21]https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/
> ssw_ibm_i_73/rzaie/rzaieconadminwebadmin.htm. The link talks about
> roles and permissions, but I don't see anything about how to
> actually set them. Has anyone done this?
>

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message: 5
date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:06:09 -0600
from: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: What are micro-services?

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Niels Liisberg <nli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Take a look here - and tell me what you think:
>
> [22]https://github.com/NielsLiisberg/Node.RPG
>
>

Niels, very interesting! I like to learn about all the tools for legacy
modernization/transformation that are pure open source.

When you talk about "entanglement" I know what you mean, but there's
another kind of "entanglement".

There is the "entanglement" of being tied to vendor solutions!

So my goal is to service customers with as pure open source as possible
so
they can "take their toys and go home" any time they want to.

You seem to be working from the same idea.

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date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 09:06:39 -0400
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subject: Re: Web Admin permissions/roles

You mean like this?
[23]https://imgur.com/a/nVHO1Li

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From: "Justin Taylor" <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "MIDRANGE-L (midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx)" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/25/2018 08:55 AM
Subject: Web Admin permissions/roles
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

I'm trying to connect to my IBM Web Administration for i (
[25]http://myIBMi:2001/HTTPAdmin/). I'm getting this error:
ZUI_50044: IBM i user profile &1 does not have *IOSYSCFG and *ALLOBJ
authorities or has not been granted permission which is required to use
the administration interface of IBM HTTP Server for i.

I went back thru the archives and found an old discussion. It led me to
this IBM link,
[26]https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_73/rzaie/rzaieconadminwebadmin.htm
. The link talks about roles and permissions, but I don't see anything
about how to actually set them. Has anyone done this?

TIA
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message: 7
date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 14:36:25 +0000
from: "Therrien, Paul" <ptherrien@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Web Admin permissions/roles

The user profile needs to have special authorities *IOSYSCGF and *ALLOBJ
You change this via CHGUSRPRF.
(This is usually a QSECOFR task).

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Subject: Web Admin permissions/roles

I'm trying to connect to my IBM Web Administration for i
([31]http://myIBMi:2001/HTTPAdmin/). I'm getting this error:
ZUI_50044: IBM i user profile &1 does not have *IOSYSCFG and *ALLOBJ
authorities or has not been granted permission which is required to use
the administration interface of IBM HTTP Server for i.

I went back thru the archives and found an old discussion. It led me to
this IBM link,
[32]https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_73/rzaie/rzaieconadminwebadmin.htm.
The link talks about roles and permissions, but I don't see anything
about how to actually set them. Has anyone done this?

TIA
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