RE: Permanently apply PTF's before V7R1 to V7R3

Cover letters can be found on line, so that's not that big of a deal.

Aside from the convenience of having the cover letters on your system,
you're spending a good deal on storage and back up/recovery on all of them.
They tend to clutter up QGPL and just make a mess, so why keep them on the
system when the web provides them in a couple of extra steps?


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:46 PM
To: 'DrFranken' <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Midrange Systems Technical
Discussion' <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Permanently apply PTF's before V7R1 to V7R3

Larry,

+1

The only negative I have when PTFs are permanently applied is that I lose
the cover letters.
There were times I needed to refer back to a cover letter, no longer on the
system.
Any thoughts or suggestions.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: DrFranken [mailto:midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:06 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion; Steinmetz, Paul
Subject: Re: Permanently apply PTF's before V7R1 to V7R3

This is the ONLY way I do upgrades. Absolutely saves a TON of time s well as
making sure you have all needed PTFs in place DURING the upgrade.

But yes DO apply previous PTFs perm first. You may not get the disk space
back if you do not. STRONGLY recommended to not skip that step. As was
mentioned you can run one pass of APYPTF *PERM to immediately apply which
will get lot of them out of the way first then a second run with Delayed so
the number applied at IPL is reduced.


- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
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On 11/27/2017 10:30 PM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:

Art,

If you really want to save IPLs, create a combined V7R3 + PTF DSLO image.
When you do upgrade, the PTFs are already applied.
V7R3 upgrade will only take 1 IPL following the upgrade.

I did this process years back when going from V6R1 to V7R1, and planning

on repeating this for my V7R1 to V7R3 upgrade.

Minus save before and after, I have the OS upgrade down to 1/2 hour.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Art

Tostaine, Jr.

Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:11 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Permanently apply PTF's before V7R1 to V7R3

We have plenty of disk space and want to do the upgrades as fast as

possible.

If we don't permanently apply and IPL before we start the upgrade will

those PTF's hang around forever or are they removed during the upgrade?

One one partition I need to IPL to apply the required upgrade MF PTF's,

then I would have to APYPTF *ALL *PERM and IPL again. I don't think I can
do that with one IPL.

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