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All good points, will re-evaluate.

I have probably 10 - 20 V7R1 "Special" PTFs, going back to 2014, that were given to me by support to resolve PMR issues.
I don't have a list, I'd have to go back and try and create one.
I'm not sure these ever made it to a CUM or Group.
How can I ensure if I need the equivalent V7R3 PTF, if one exists, or if the fix is now in the base code?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: DrFranken [mailto:midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:15 AM
To: Steinmetz, Paul; 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: Re: Permanently apply PTF's before V7R1 to V7R3

There are several ways to get them on line. When I have a need to view a list of PTF cover letters I actually go to Fix Central, paste the list into the PTFs to order box and hit next. The following page then has a direct link to the cover letter for each one. Very nice to be able to click down the list and read them.

Because my customers sometimes clean up well and other times not as much I find myself almost NEVER viewing a cover letter on the system and use the web almost every time.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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On 11/28/2017 12:46 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
Larry,

+1

The only negative I have when PTFs are permanently applied is that I lose the cover letters.
There were times I needed to refer back to a cover letter, no longer on the system.
Any thoughts or suggestions.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: DrFranken [mailto:midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:06 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion; Steinmetz, Paul
Subject: Re: Permanently apply PTF's before V7R1 to V7R3

This is the ONLY way I do upgrades. Absolutely saves a TON of time s well as making sure you have all needed PTFs in place DURING the upgrade.

But yes DO apply previous PTFs perm first. You may not get the disk space back if you do not. STRONGLY recommended to not skip that step. As was mentioned you can run one pass of APYPTF *PERM to immediately apply which will get lot of them out of the way first then a second run with Delayed so the number applied at IPL is reduced.


- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 11/27/2017 10:30 PM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
Art,

If you really want to save IPLs, create a combined V7R3 + PTF DSLO image.
When you do upgrade, the PTFs are already applied.
V7R3 upgrade will only take 1 IPL following the upgrade.

I did this process years back when going from V6R1 to V7R1, and planning on repeating this for my V7R1 to V7R3 upgrade.
Minus save before and after, I have the OS upgrade down to 1/2 hour.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Art Tostaine, Jr.
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:11 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Permanently apply PTF's before V7R1 to V7R3

We have plenty of disk space and want to do the upgrades as fast as possible.

If we don't permanently apply and IPL before we start the upgrade will those PTF's hang around forever or are they removed during the upgrade?

One one partition I need to IPL to apply the required upgrade MF PTF's, then I would have to APYPTF *ALL *PERM and IPL again. I don't think I can do that with one IPL.

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