RE: Full System Save -- MIDRANGE-L

Jerry,

Either stop the app (releases the lock) or omit the object.

Neither have been acceptable IFS solutions.

Very little of our work involves the IFS, but this is changing.

The problem with SWA and IFS is there is no delay.
If the object is in use, it is automatically skipped.

One option that I remember being suggested was to journal the IFS object.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Draper
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 2:31 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Full System Save

Some years ago an IFS file got corrupted and we discovered that SWA never could back up the file (JDE.INI).

Luckily we had an offline copy.

How do you handle the IFS with SWA?

Jerry

On 8/7/2017 11:24 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:

Donna,

We have the same issues, we are 24x7.
I do a full back, SWA, (Save While Active), every night.
SWA works great for libraries.
IFS objects are another story.
SWA does not apply for IFS objects.

I've been running this for twenty years, no issues with libraries, occasional issue with IFS objects.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
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Donna Crowley
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 2:14 PM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: Full System Save

Good day!

We have a fully integrated ERP application suite running on a Power 8,
V7.2. Right now, we run the vanilla RUNBCKUP. Unfortunately, we have
2 payment portals (web and IVR) that run 24x7. Due to this, some
files don't get backed up as they're in use. We discovered this
during our last disaster recovery test. Not a good result. :(

If we do a Full System Save, we catch everything, as the subsystems are ended, which breaks the connections to the payment portals.

I've been told there is a "save while in use" option, which triggers two questions: 1. How would this work? Would it skip the locked files and then try to back them up later? Wouldn't this cause the files to be out of sync??? And 2. If only the full system save would work, can I put it on the scheduler? I've read some older postings that say this can't be done as Opt. 21 would end QBATCH. I'm not a programmer, and have limited availability to someone with somewhat out-of-date programming skills. What else would be available to us? (BRMS is not an option).

Thank you all for any info you could pass along!
Donna
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