We have very limited activity during our nightly save, so I've never had to deal with the sync issue.

I use the nightly save to do a full restore to our R&D environments.
I've never had an issue with the restore from the save using SWA.

I use IBM's AJS (Advance Job Scheduler) combined with IBM's BRMS.
I setup control groups.

Everything is automated.

Full backup with auto dup for off site, every night.

A dedicated Full backup with auto dup, every 3 months.
Similar process.
Scheduled using AJS and BRMS.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna Crowley
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 2:36 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Full System Save

Thank you, Paul!

I've sent an email to our VAR to see if he has any tricks up his sleeve. I'm just afraid I'll get all the files (eventually), but that they won't all be in sync with each other.

Donna L. Crowley
Information Systems Technician II
Placer County Water Agency
Phone: (530) 823-4878
Mobile: (530) 308-5190
Fax:  (530) 823-4812
dcrowley@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 11:25 AM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: Full System Save

Donna,

We have the same issues, we are 24x7.
I do a full back, SWA, (Save While Active), every night.
SWA works great for libraries.
IFS objects are another story.
SWA does not apply for IFS objects.

I've been running this for twenty years, no issues with libraries, occasional issue with IFS objects.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna Crowley
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 2:14 PM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: Full System Save

Good day!

We have a fully integrated ERP application suite running on a Power 8, V7.2. Right now, we run the vanilla RUNBCKUP. Unfortunately, we have 2 payment portals (web and IVR) that run 24x7. Due to this, some files don't get backed up as they're in use. We discovered this during our last disaster recovery test. Not a good result. :(

If we do a Full System Save, we catch everything, as the subsystems are ended, which breaks the connections to the payment portals.

I've been told there is a "save while in use" option, which triggers two questions: 1. How would this work? Would it skip the locked files and then try to back them up later? Wouldn't this cause the files to be out of sync??? And 2. If only the full system save would work, can I put it on the scheduler? I've read some older postings that say this can't be done as Opt. 21 would end QBATCH. I'm not a programmer, and have limited availability to someone with somewhat out-of-date programming skills. What else would be available to us? (BRMS is not an option).

Thank you all for any info you could pass along!
Donna
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