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On 8/1/2017 3:06 PM, Rob Berendt wrote:

I see this same undesirable behavior on true gui scroll bars on really
long data. You scroll to the bottom and then it fills up more and you're
no longer at the bottom.
It's not just a 5250 thing.

Absolutely true. There are even some sites which have never-ending
content. No matter how many times you scroll to the "bottom", they
just dynamically generate more content at the end.

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What do you see as being the correct solution for this issue?

Unfortunately, I don't see any good solution. From my point of view,
the established scroll-bar behavior described in this thread is about
as good as you can reasonably get. It's one of those things that, once
people see it enough, they get used to it. For good or ill.

(I put the hamburger menu in this category.)

I do think it's possible to come up with new widget idioms that are
arguably nicer than what we have now, but they would entail a lot of
infrastructure change, and whoever adopts it first will be taking a
big risk that it doesn't catch on. (Just brainstorming: one way to
reduce the deceptiveness of the widget could be to have some other
symbol taking the place of the bottom arrow which indicates that it's
not the "true" bottom. Kind of like a meta-more, or
second-order-more.)

John Y.

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