I will show them this again.

Last time it met with disapproval because the scroll bar was displayed regardless if there was a another page or not.


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 11:31 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SFL More

This re-raises a question for which I have never seen a reasonable answer. The whole computer world uses and understands scroll bars.
DOS, Windows, OS/2, HTML, JAVA, javascript, iOS, androids, Everything
else. Except 5250 shops. We've had scroll bars available to us for...
gosh... 25 years? Yet we pooh-pooh them and refuse to use them. We will do everything imaginable to create the functionality, but we aggressively refuse to even consider a very simply implemented scroll bar.

Why do we avoid scroll bars? Scroll bars allow scrolling, they allow inching. They show our place is the subfile, and they provide an indication as to the size of the subfile. All by just by adding 7 characters. There is nothing else to do. Nothing else at all.
Constraints needed are 3 empty columns and using the actual subfile size for the SFLSIZE keyword. Yet good, experienced RPG programmers raise their hackles and get red in the face when scroll bars get mentioned.

Why do we avoid scroll bars? When users see a scrollable screen with out a scroll bar their first reaction is "This is ancient" and they are
right. We are doing this to ourselves. The training curve is zero. The
result is an attractive window understood by everyone.

If you've never seen a 5250 scroll bar, why not take a minute and look?
scroll bar <http://www.martinvt.com/Subfiles/Scroll_Bar/scroll_bar.html>

If anyone has a good reason to stay with "More...", please share it.

On 8/1/2017 8:05 AM, Bryan Dietz wrote:
I recall creating a macro called "More..." and just recording a
<page-down> then you can enable hot spots, 3-D button for the macro.

the word "More..." (anywhere) on the screen would then have the 3-D
button look and you could click on it and page down.

Bryan


(WalzCraft) Jerry Forss wrote on 7/31/2017 2:31 PM:
Hi All,

I have been asked this question with my initial answer of No.

Can I display the More... (SFLEND(*MORE)) in red and blinking?

SOME users are unable to see and remember to look in the lower right
of a screen to see if there are more pages to display.

Jerry Forss

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