RE: End of the road for 7.1?

Same story here. We have so many systems we need to be handsoff whenever possible. That includes media, or the lack of it. VIOS is great!

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:20 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: End of the road for 7.1?

Like Larry I have not used a physical DVD in I can't remember how long.
Some customers have actually dropped them from orders, although IBM get's cranky about it.

IBM i or VIOS does not much matter the DVD virtualizes so well you really don't need a physical one anymore.

Like Larry said, the virtualized DVD is stupid fast by comparison to a physical one.

The latest trick I've used is setting up the TFTP server on my laptop and using that for network installation. That lets you get the first partition loaded and you can virtualize everything from there.

Jim Oberholtzer
CEO/Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Steinmetz, Paul <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Rob,

I also was under the impression that I needed DVD for installs, etc.
When I ordered our P7 back in 2011, I ordered a 2nd DVD for my R&D
LPAR, (because DVD in CEC could not be DLPAR).
Over the last few years, most vendors, including IBM, no longer supply DVD.
You must download from a site.
For some vendors, you can request a DVD, but extra $$$.
TOTAL/400 from ADEonics is the only one I have that only uses DVD.

With all that said, also doing the network installs, create DSLO media
, etc. as Larry said, no need for DVD.
Image catalogs is the way to go.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
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Rob Berendt
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:23 AM
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Subject: Re: End of the road for 7.1?

Ok, so instead of a physical dvd you have an ISO file.
If it isn't the latest respin, might that still give you grief when
you "boot from that"?


Rob Berendt
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From: DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/07/2016 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: End of the road for 7.1?
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What is this thing "DVD" you keep mentioning? :-)

I haven't booted from one of those in years except to install VIOS.
Firstly You can host the i_BASE disk in the host partition in an image
catalog and boot from that. It is STUPID fast too, you get C600 codes
before the HMC can refresh!

Mostly though I do network installs because with that you don't need
any i_BASE from IBM you can use DSLO media with all the PTFs already applied.


- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
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On 4/7/2016 10:52 AM, Rob Berendt wrote:

Larry,

Far be it from me to question you on items like this but one still
needs that DVD to boot from, even on a guested lpar.
I've had to burn newer respins just to get through this before.


Rob Berendt

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