Jim

many years ago on an early release I head about a machine they
could't even start in restricted mode - just the size of QSYSOPR
that expanded under IPL killed the machine

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It will come back to a restricted state, however being able to do much
else after that until space is created, that's another question.

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-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Henrik Rützou
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:39 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: ASP threshold

Rob

the PWRDWNSYS will come at itself if you continues to overload the ASP

But there is no guarantee that you are able to restart the system

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:31 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

But I take it you don't recommend *ENDSYS or *PWRDWNSYS but instead
recommend the exit point, or the messaging options, to then perform
more controlled actions.


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From: "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 08/11/2015 08:22 AM
Subject: RE: ASP threshold
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Yes. And to answer Henrik's question yes I believe FTP would stop as
well as distribution services etc.

You can still crash the system without taking action, but the system
values allow you to get out in front of it.

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-----Original Message-----
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rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 6:58 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: ASP threshold

So basically the SST ASP threshold does still shut down a few things
but the
QSTGLOW* system values allow you to see and control other stuff?

And, be careful to take in mind how you shut down stuff. But don't be
so paranoid that you do nothing and just let the disk fill up.


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From: "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 08/11/2015 07:53 AM
Subject: RE: ASP threshold
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Rob,

The Distribution services and such will behave the same as they did
before, but at V4R2 we were able to programmatically grab control of
what happened when that limit was reached. Most folks just put out
the message (I think that's the default) but other customers will have
a program that handles the situation more elegantly.

The bigger problem we see now is with replicated systems, particularly
PowerHA. It can be nasty if the primary system goes down hard.

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Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
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-----Original Message-----
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rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 6:31 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: ASP threshold

So is that basically saying that all actions which used to be done by
that SST number are no longer performed and if you want such
activities they are done via the QSTGLOW* system values?

In years past the SST number would do things like shut down snads and
whatnot. Are you saying none of those actions are done at the SST
number anymore?


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From: paul.roy@xxxxxxx
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 08/10/2015 05:00 PM
Subject: Re: ASP threshold
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



the process is documented here :
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1018284



Paul




From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 10/08/2015 16:54
Subject: ASP threshold
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Does IBM document anywhere exactly what actions, if any, occur when
threshold is exceeded?


Select ASP to Change Threshold

----Protected--- ---Unprotected--
ASP Threshold Overflow Size %Used Size %Used
1 90% No 0 0.00% 3131747 89.77%


This is the SST threshold, which is different than WRKSYSVAL QSTGLOW*



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