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Richard,

There's no argument that M$ has a place, nor do I wish to debate it. As to
the stability of the apps: phooey. People expect M$ apps to die constantly
so they accept it. Oh the server itself won't go down or maybe it's only a
service that has to be restarted every week, or communications that bomb for
some reason (M$ still does not know how to build a reliable IP stack) but
those apps die with regularity.

I have a customer that used to run an IBM i ERP. It was green screen. The
CFO got made at the system because it lost a disk unit and the third party
maintenance guy blew up the system by replacing the wrong drive. How that's
IBM i fault is another question He forced the company to the M$ suite of
apps. TOC of the department has about doubled and I see messages at least
once a day from one the many manufacturing plants they have notifying IT
they are down for one reason or another. Usually only a few minutes but
down nonetheless. They went from dead solid, to at best flaky and spent
millions doing it, when all they really needed to do was put up the more
recent version of the software they already had (which has a robust
graphical component). He drank the M$ coolaid....

Let's not talk about security it's not worth the laugh. Daily/hourly
patches for the latest and greatest virus/worm/malware, no thanks....

I do support you're point that you could write applications in .Net and use
those to access the IBM i instance. Arguably Microsoft Studio is the most
efficient development environment available today. RDi is getting there but
there are not the prebuilt helpers for screen dialogs, and common every day
development bits in it yet like Studio has. But I would only put the view
and maybe a portion of the controller there, never the model in an MVC
environment. (wait now your back to the daily/hourly patches for security
and malware on the WEB server, maybe not.......)

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Richard Schoen
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:40 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Samba

Yep that's why they buy MS. It's can't possibly be the stability or the
apps. Or maybe it is ? :-)

Do you support any MS apps ? I would love to see you $mack talking Windows
to a CIO/CTO.

I have Windows app server VM's that have been spinning more than 365 days at
a time without issue.

IBM i is good, but coupled with Windows it's even better.

Regards,

Richard Schoen | Director of Document Management Technologies, HelpSystems
T: + 1 952-486-6802
RJS Software Systems | A Division of HelpSystems
richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.rjssoftware.com

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message: 5
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 10:45:50 -0500
from: "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Samba

No question the M$ stuff is entrenched since everyone is really happy to
spend way more money than they need to.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Richard Schoen
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:22 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Samba

On our recent survey and in every real world customer I talk with Windows is
firmly entrenched in the environment. AD, Exchange, Many Business Apps,
VMware, on and on.

Are you seeing differently in the customers you visit ?

Regards,

Richard Schoen | Director of Document Management Technologies, HelpSystems
T: + 1 952-486-6802
RJS Software Systems | A Division of HelpSystems
richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.rjssoftware.com



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