We recently transitioned our developers from SEU to RDI (only took 5 years
of begging...)
If not appropriate, stay away from the "Fixed Term" - if we understood it
correctly, it's a 1 year, with no renewal - you just buy it again..
We went with the 1st option (968) for 6 developers.
When I pointed out the Win developers have similar or more costly suites of
tools, we got it.
I wanted 1 or 2 seats of the Modernization Tools and Java, but have to beg
(justify...) some more, a project requiring web services or similar..
Jim Franz
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:17 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: RSE - Remote System Explorer
Vern,
Thanks for info and update.
Our BP is not very familiar with RDI, info and pricing is confusing.
We currently have 40 5770WDS licenses.
We currently have 5 programmers, 1 operator, 1 application admin, and 1 i5
admin.
We had a one seat license for RDI back in 2012 when we migrated to P7, but
it wasn't included in our maintenance renewal, didn't get renewed, BP
slipup.
Below is the pricing I pulled from the site.
Not everyone would need a RDI seat, not sure which way to go at this point.
Detailed price list
Select Part description *IBM price excluding tax
IBM Rational Developer for i RPG & COBOL Tools Authorized User
License + SW Subscription & Support 12 Months (D0C5FLL) 968.00
IBM Rational Developer for i RPG & COBOL Tools Floating User Single
Install License + SW Subscription & Support 12 Months (D0C5ILL)
1,710.00
IBM Rational Developer for i RPG & COBOL Tools Floating User Single
Install Initial Fixed Term License + SW Subscription & Support 12 Months
(D0LJWLL) 787.00
IBM Rational Developer for i RPG/COBOL + Modernization Tools, Java
Edition Authorized User License + SW Subscription & Support 12 Months
(D0ZN3LL) 2,700.00
IBM Rational Developer for i RPG/COBOL + Modernization Tools, Java
Edition Floating User Single Install License + SW Subscription & Support 12
Months (D0ZN4LL) 4,730.00
IBM Rational Developer for i RPG/COBOL + Modernization Tools, Java
Edition Floating User Single Install Initial Fixed Term License + SW
Subscription & Support 12 Months (D0ZNSLL) 2,220.00
IBM Rational Developer for i RPG / COBOL + Modernization Tools, EGL
Edition Authorized User License + SW Subscription & Support 12 Months
(D0ZN5LL) 2,700.00
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:55 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: RSE - Remote System Explorer
You don't have a choice for replacing SEU - RDi is it.
Having said that, there is an ADTS trade-in program that brought the
per-seat cost down around 600 bucks - it is easiest to use this program by
going through your BP. Ask them about it - product code 5733-RDG might be
the thing.
If you look at WRKLICINF for ADTS, you will likely see a bunch of seats now,
this was changed at 6.1. You'll still have lots of ADTS seats for those who
need PDM, etc. We had 25 on our LPARs.
Prices vary for different editions of RDi - the price displayed on their
site is for a single-year license - it will end up being more expensive in
like 2 years.
You also PROBABLY don't want the floating license.
There ARE productivity gains with these tools, AND SEU is no longer being
updated.
Good luck
Vern
On 8/6/2014 9:23 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
1) What is RSE (Remote System Explorer)?
2) Is RSE a replacement for PDM?
3) Would RSE be another option to RDI?
As the programmers use more of the new features, the SEU syntax checking
frozen at 6.1 is becoming a bigger issue.
Again, looking for SEU replacement options.
RDI was tabled due to cost justification.
Thank You
_____
Paul Steinmetz
IBM i Systems Administrator
Pencor Services, Inc.
462 Delaware Ave
Palmerton Pa 18071
610-826-9117 work
610-826-9188 fax
610-349-0913 cell
610-377-6012 home
psteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx
http://www.pencor.com/
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