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I don't know about how much IBM cares about the product line, but I know that the examples in the V7R1 manuals are terrible. I find them to be virtually without any worth at all.

I miss the days when the IBM manuals could be used without going out the internet to find "real, usable" examples of how to use some processes.

Also, I would give anything not to have to look at 72 manuals to find decent SQL information. SQL information seems like it is everywhere and is not organized in a manner that promotes usage. On the IBM developer webisite, IBM is very into "you should go to this seminar, and that training course." What happened to us being able to self-educate? I have spent the last year acquiring and honing my SQL skills, and I can tell you it has not been easy.

To me, It almost seems like IBM is trying to make it as difficult as possible to support advanced functionality as well as SQL fuctionality.

-Brent
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian May
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Easy way to determine if two tables contain the same data

I don't think it has anything to do with how much IBM "cares" about the product line. IBM cares greatly about Power Systems and IBM i. I think it is a matter of information availability and cost. Why would they go to that much expense when all of the announcement information is readily available online? I know I wouldn't take a day away from my work/family to go to a meeting when I could just go online and read the announcement. I also would rather IBM spend that money on continuing to add new features to IBM i.

Brian May
IBM i Modernization Specialist
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Easy way to determine if two tables contain the same data


Don't you just miss the days when IBM actually cared enough about the product line to have a real release announcement day in which they brought in all the local users for a half/full day of announcement information will ALL the new goodies that were being announced, features, SOFTWARE, LANGUAGE FEATURES, etc???

I guess there's just not enough folks left around to warrant those kinds of meetings anymore...

DR2

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:10 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Easy way to determine if two tables contain the same data

For years I would have used UNION to see if the tables were the same, then investigate with EXCEPTION JOIN, often a lot more work. I'm astonished that this dates from V5R4. I wonder what other goodies are still waiting to be discovered.

2013/3/29 Peter Connell <Peter.Connell@xxxxxxxxxx>

Charles,
I did not know that.
Thanks.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Friday, 29 March 2013 12:29 p.m.
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Easy way to determine if two tables contain the same data

D
on't know if this technique has ever been posted here or not, but I
ran across the technique last night on a DB2 LUW forum and it works
just fine on DB2 for IBM i...

If you have a need to compare the contents of two tables to determine
if they match, here's the easy way.
select * from table1
EXCEPT
select * from table2

In my case, I was refactoring some code and wanted to make sure that
the output was still the same.

You can even use it on two different version of a table...you just
have to do a bit more typing. Example: Original table has fld1, fld2
and new table has fld1,fld2, fld3.

select * from origtable
EXCEPT
select fld1,fld2 from newtable

I was doing it on 7.1, but according to the manual, except is
supported starting at v5r4.

Cavats: the tables must have a primary key; or be a uniquely keyed
physical.

HTH,
Charles
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