Re: BRMS - full save with least amount of restricted time

So noted. When I look at TESTIFS control group via green screen, it no
longer says *BKUPCY all over the place. All the *BKUPCY have been replaced
by whatever the *BKUPCY policy value was at the time I saved it in iNav.

Odd, but I think I can live with it.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<snip>
When I went to change it in iNav I got this big warning that the control
group was not properly formatted for the graphical interface and to click
OK if I wanted it to be formatted
properly.
</snip>
This was a concern of mine earlier. Just searched again for
documentation...

BRMS interface differences

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzai8/rzai8compat.htm

However, changing control groups created on the character-based interface
using the BRMS graphical interface is not recommended unless you
understand the following:

The BRMS graphical interface backup and archive control groups are
designed to be independent of each other. Thus, if you make changes to one
control group, it does not affect the others. To ensure this independence,
control groups that are updated with the BRMS graphical interface will
have all references to the character-based interface system policy
(*SYSPCY), archive policy (*ARCPCY), and backup policy (*BKUPCY) removed.
These references are resolved and replaced with the actual values when the
backup control group is saved by the BRMS graphical interface. Changes to
the archive policy, backup policy, or system policy in the character-based
interface do not affect backup or archive control groups that are created
or edited by the BRMS graphical interface. The exceptions to this are the
network function, sign-off exceptions, and the subsystem to check controls
in the system policy, which are used by the BRMS graphical interface.

There is nothing specified on this at the FAQ page at

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home?lang=en#/wiki/IBM%20Backup%2C%20Recovery%20and%20Media%20Services%20%28BRMS%29%20for%20i/page/FAQ%20%26%20Data%20areas
Maybe they figure they've said it once.

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From: Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 01/22/2013 09:26 AM
Subject: Re: BRMS - full save with least amount of restricted time
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Jeff Crosby
<jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

I looked at several of the files in /QIBM/UserData/OS/OSGi. They all
seem related to Eclipse. And I did have it open on my PC. Wonder what
would happen if I tried a *LINK SWA backup when not in RDP? I will try
that tomorrow. That's 40 of the 49 missed objects right there.

Tomorrow is now today and I tried it. STRBKUBRM CTLGRP(TESTIFS)
SBMJOB(*YES) so it would go to batch. Then looked at QSYSOPR to see what
was happening and saw this: Job 841991/QTCP/QTFTP00117 was ended by user
JEFF. Uh oh. That's not good. Sure enough, TCP/IP ended. Thankfully
this was at 7:15am and I was the only office employee here at the time.

OK, what did I miss? No subsystems were to be ended and interactive users
were allowed to stay on. When it finished 20 minutes or so later, I
looked
at the control group and paged all the way down to the last page and there
it was. End TCP/IP *YES (among others). But I couldn't change it. I
have
another control group where End TCP/IP is *NO, so there's got to be a way
(or else it's inherited from some policy somewhere).

I finally read that you can only change the items on this last screen via
the graphical interface. That info was in the extended help as I couldn't
seem to find it in the manual. When I went to change it in iNav I got
this
big warning that the control group was not properly formatted for the
graphical interface and to click OK if I wanted it to be formatted
properly. I said OK, made the changes, and saved it. I wondered if I
would still be able to update it on green screen and I can. (An aside
question to IBM: if you can display these options on the green screen,
why
can't you change it? Obviously the green screen has access to the setting
and can interpret it properly.)

Anyway, only 2 items couldn't be saved. The Standguard AV log and fax
file
that didn't work Saturday. Everything else saved, but since TCP/IP was
down, it wasn't a good test. So I will try again on Thursday morning,
since I have been summoned for jury duty tomorrow. :)


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